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Old 09-29-2006, 11:39 AM   #5761
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I am an unsponsored driver, I have had the plastic shocks on my FK05 and on my T2. I had no problems with them over the last 2 years. I have not broken a body once. I do run the Pdub front bumper.

I find no difference between the TRF shock on my 415msx and the T2 shocks. I dont have any leaking, just rebuild them every two months and go race.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:26 PM   #5762
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Un-sponsered driver here-I have had no problems with my plastic shocks bleeding or breaking. I like them. I even have a set of TRF shocks that someone loaned me to try, I am going to give them back to him.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:28 PM   #5763
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Personal THANKS goes to RC America. Especially Ralph, Barry, and Paul. They helped me with my car and set-up at the IIC running foam TC for my first time. Had a lot of fun and learned a lot.
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Old 09-29-2006, 05:02 PM   #5765
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The bottom loading Losi shocks take forever to get built and bled equal. Especially compared to the current shocks like the Schumacher, TRF, (I've never built Xray shocks but as far as I know they're pretty similar, right?) Bladder shocks IMO are much faster and easier to build and get right.
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Old 09-29-2006, 06:06 PM   #5766
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honestly jon,i just built a set of the new schumacher shocks and i am very impressed.i think i like them better than the tamiya shocks.i was very impressed with the coating on the shock bodies.they are the same build as the tamiya shocks but seem a bit more smoothe.i have always been a big fan of the tamiya shocks.now i think i have a new favorite.now if i can just get em in a color other than purple.
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:24 PM   #5767
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Look at the flex tech for carpet. Now they are eating words that were said we did not need a new chassis. So now 9 months later the flex chassis is not good for carpet. The Xray club members will stand by and say it is not needed and is an update I am sure. I do not think we will have Juri (don't know how to spell his name right now) come on here and say they screwed up and was wrong about the chassis fr carpet.
Hmmm.... I ran my stock upper and lower deck on my T2 at Vegas last weekend... qualified 21st in 19t foam. I thought about getting a solid lower chassis for carpet foam but I didnt care for any of the aftermarket ones so I just waited until XRay came out with a update for the T2... glad I did as the new car looks great
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on high bite the stock chassis is a little bit too flexible.the new one should be a bit more rigid.the vegas race from what i was told was low bite so the stock chassis would probably be better than a stiff one for that application.i believe the new kit or update is a carpet spec kit.the stock T2 seems to be a car that will do both asphalt and carpet to an extent.from what i gathered from the stock chassis is that the multiflex technology in theory is a nice idea but doesnt really work as intended.it seemed to tweak easier than a solid chassis due to the type of material used.component grade carbon fiber is not bad carbon fiber but does not have the memory of quasi isotropic.it works similar to fiberglass in how when it flexes it does not fully return to its origional state.quasi isotropic has more torsional strength than component grade and component grade has more longitudinal strenght.quasi is more expensive due to the material loss when made due to the 45 degree layers.you lose 4 corners and need larger sheets to fill the panel at 45 degrees.if they went with quasi they would need to go thinner to achieve the flex but it couldnt be used for both then.this is why i am a true believer in an asphalt and a carpet kit.it is difficult to make 1 chassis do it all unless you get into 1/12th scales where T plates or side springs do most of the work.
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Hmmm.... I ran my stock upper and lower deck on my T2 at Vegas last weekend... qualified 21st in 19t foam. I thought about getting a solid lower chassis for carpet foam but I didnt care for any of the aftermarket ones so I just waited until XRay came out with a update for the T2... glad I did as the new car looks great

you should check out the complete BMI chassis. I got one two months ago and was highly impressed. the craftmanship was perfect and the car hasn't had a tweek in it since.This chassis is exactly what the car needed, rock solid. best money I ever spent on an aftermarket part. Good job guy's
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thanks buddy.im glad you liked it.
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The bottom loading Losi shocks take forever to get built and bled equal. Especially compared to the current shocks like the Schumacher, TRF, (I've never built Xray shocks but as far as I know they're pretty similar, right?) Bladder shocks IMO are much faster and easier to build and get right.
I like them.
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I have seen a few BMI T2 chassis... superb workmanship. I didnt pull the trigger and buy one because the roll center is lowered 1/2 mm from stock... 3mm chassis with bulkheads pocket milled 1mm... from what I am told. Maybe Jason can confirm this?
Anyway my point was you can run the multiflex chassis on carpet and do OK. Now the IIC wasnt high bite but how often does anyone run on real high bite? Even Cleveland last year wasnt high bite.
I am not saying the multiflex chassis is the greatest thing ever, just that it does work on most tracks... but since I race carpet I have a 007 on order
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By making that change to the bulkheads several mm of material was able to be removed from up high on the car.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:55 AM   #5775
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I have seen a few BMI T2 chassis... superb workmanship. I didnt pull the trigger and buy one because the roll center is lowered 1/2 mm from stock... 3mm chassis with bulkheads pocket milled 1mm... from what I am told. Maybe Jason can confirm this?
Anyway my point was you can run the multiflex chassis on carpet and do OK. Now the IIC wasnt high bite but how often does anyone run on real high bite? Even Cleveland last year wasnt high bite.
I am not saying the multiflex chassis is the greatest thing ever, just that it does work on most tracks... but since I race carpet I have a 007 on order
i did lower the bulkheads .5mm over stock for the lower cg.this was what Paul Lemieux asked me for and when he said he liked it better, i decided to offer it to the general public.this did not change the roll center,just the cg.if you lower everything on the car like shock towers,arms and mounts and bulkheads,your roll center stays the same.what you are changing is the center of gravity only.it gives you the same effect as just running a 2mm chassis with added rigidity for carpet.if i was to only lower the bulkheads or only lower the arm mounts,that would be a roll center change.also,from what i have been told,many people had problems at vegas because the bite was much lower than there home tracks so they had to start from scratch on setup.the results from the vegas race is not a good referance for each cars performance capabilities because i do not think we will see low bite like that again.it will be interesting to see how all the new cars run in standard big race conditions.it will show there true performance.
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