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Old 11-30-2005, 10:36 PM   #316
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I believe the photos are "officially" from TEAM XRAY.
They do the same style and photo angle when released FK'05. .

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Old 11-30-2005, 10:42 PM   #317
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As far as the photos, I'm quite sure that this was an "engineered leak" to build up buzz. Totally intentional. You simply don't pay a photographer thousands to make such a nice set for your new product and then "accidentally" post in in a public website.
I sincerely hope that there's no professional photographer out there being paid thousands to do product photography with a consumer (Sony Cybershot) digital camera, shooting in JPG. No offense, I know a bit about this, and I'm confident this isn't the case. A professional would quite possibly use a tilt/shift lens to cut down on perspective distortion, and get the right depth of field. Plus, they'd shoot it in RAW (or film, though less likely) on a professional or even prosumer body.

If you're interested, there are tutorials on how to do nice product photography in your home using a cheaply built light box, which will give you about 90% of what you can get from a professional. It's a popular choice for small companies and online retailers that don't want to retain a professional photographer.

The Flash on their site appears to be rushed, with many sections unfinished, and one still containing information from the 1/18th nitro car, presumably because it was used as a template.

That said, I agree, it's the most beautiful car I've seen yet. I don't plan to abandon my lovely RDX, but I'll certainly admire the T2 from afar.
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Would the US kits come with a front diff like the 05?
From the T2 Specs on the website it says Multi diff not included in US Kits...
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Just to clear up the "leak" intended rumors...

The photos were "found" in a directory/sub-directory on the Xray site. This included several shots without a rendered backgound. Although the /t2 directory was not too dificult a guess it was, none the less, found by "accident".

I work as a professional designer and it is quite common for companies to put up an easy to "tell it to a dummy over the phone or via email" directory to allow your distributors and magazine editors to get copies of the images prior to a new product release. As these are 300DPI high-res and larger images, it would seem that was exactly what was going on. Merely a production staging area that was "discovered".

Judging by the "incomplete" update to Xray's website I can with all certainty assure those that thought this was intentional that it was not.

If it was, the site would have been complete. If you notice, even a few of the links in the Flash file are incorrect.

Xray rushed to get the site updated to recover from this "unfortunate" event that allowed us all to get a look at this wonderful new car. Those that have all the hi-res images can relish an up close view before some of the press even had one for a change....

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I sincerely hope that there's no professional photographer out there being paid thousands to do product photography with a consumer (Sony Cybershot) digital camera, shooting in JPG. No offense, I know a bit about this, and I'm confident this isn't the case. A professional would quite possibly use a tilt/shift lens to cut down on perspective distortion, and get the right depth of field. Plus, they'd shoot it in RAW (or film, though less likely) on a professional or even prosumer body.

If you're interested, there are tutorials on how to do nice product photography in your home using a cheaply built light box, which will give you about 90% of what you can get from a professional. It's a popular choice for small companies and online retailers that don't want to retain a professional photographer.

The Flash on their site appears to be rushed, with many sections unfinished, and one still containing information from the 1/18th nitro car, presumably because it was used as a template.

That said, I agree, it's the most beautiful car I've seen yet. I don't plan to abandon my lovely RDX, but I'll certainly admire the T2 from afar.

You don't need a Nikon D1S to shoot a model car in a controlled lighting situation. Any REAL photographer uses the right tool for the job. Only pretending amatures think they need a $5,000 camera for all occasions.

And yes, I'd be willing to bet that if the photos were shot by a professional photographer that the shoot cost about $2,000. Remember; you're not paying for an expensive camera to shoot the photos, rather you're paying for the photographers experience.

Look at the lighting and clarity. Just becasue it was a Sony Cybershot doesn't mean that it wasn't professionally done.
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Anyone have the internal ratio of the T2
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Just so you know, I contacted Hudy last year about working for them. They produce ALL their art and photos in-house. No outside designers or photographers. Supposedly one of the Hudy relatives has the B.A. in Graphic Design and does most of the work with a small staff. This would explain the Cybershot.

Also, after working with numerous photog's over the years, they wouldn't be caught digitally dead with anything but a Nikon or Canon...

Again, my .02

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Just so you know, I contacted Hudy last year about working for them. They produce ALL their art and photos in-house. No outside designers or photographers. Supposedly one of the Hudy relatives has the B.A. in Graphic Design and does most of the work with a small staff. This would explain the Cybershot.

Also, after working with numerous photog's over the years, they wouldn't be caught digitally dead with anything but a Nikon or Canon...

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Cool....Some companies farm out photo work though. Anyhow...I've known certain photographers that use the strangest and "cheapest" cameras to get a certain desired effect.

Myself though...I'm a Nikon man...
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:21 PM   #327
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The number of used Xrays showing up for sale all the sudden is quite comical. Can you say buyers market?
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The number of used Xrays showing up for sale all the sudden is quite comical. Can you say buyers market?
yeah I just checked the for sale forums and noticed the same thing!
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Cool....Some companies farm out photo work though. Anyhow...I've known certain photographers that use the strangest and "cheapest" cameras to get a certain desired effect.
Strapping a $100 Lensbaby (plastic, terrible quality) on my 10D is my favorite "creative" lens which takes terrible (but interesting) pictures. Seems ironic to spend thousands on a body only to obscure the pictures with something that's trying to imitate an old Holga. I believe they make them with a Nikon mount too. It's great fun.

Anyway, regardless of how things went down, it looks like XRay is going to send a lot of car designers scrambling for something new tomorrow morning.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:29 PM   #330
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The number of used Xrays showing up for sale all the sudden is quite comical. Can you say buyers market?
yes anyone selling their olf fk05 thats not worth having now lol im offering $50 each
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