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Old 11-25-2005, 05:13 PM   #1
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I was comparing the two and the FT tc4 is similar in price to a TC4 with a BMI chassis and carbon parts. Which would be better?
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:43 PM   #2
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A FT TC4 and a TC4 with the BMI chassis may be comparable in price if you are comparing used equipment. If you are comparing new stuff, the FT TC4 is going to be much cheaper. Especially considering all the hop-ups that come with the FT that wouldn't come with the regular TC4.

Honestly, I would go with the FT TC4 to start with. Then when BMI makes a chassis for the FT, you may want to get that depending on what the differences are with the BMI chassis.
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The BMI kit has the batteries and all the electronics moved forward. I think the top deck is also a different height but im not 100% sure on that one. I know that if you put the same setup on a BMI and a FT 9 times out of 10 the BMI will have more corner speed. Also you want to take into consideration that the BMI is a conversion for the tub car...not the FT car. The motor mounts are not the same (I think thats the biggest thing you would have to change). Also BMI kit is 3.0 mm graphite and the FT is 2.5mm . Just things to remember. If you already have a TC4 then I would get the BMI kit. If you are starting from scratch then get the FT and just spend the extra money on track time (IE practice)
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The BMI kit has the batteries and all the electronics moved forward. I think the top deck is also a different height but im not 100% sure on that one. I know that if you put the same setup on a BMI and a FT 9 times out of 10 the BMI will have more corner speed. Also you want to take into consideration that the BMI is a conversion for the tub car...not the FT car. The motor mounts are not the same (I think thats the biggest thing you would have to change). Also BMI kit is 3.0 mm graphite and the FT is 2.5mm . Just things to remember. If you already have a TC4 then I would get the BMI kit. If you are starting from scratch then get the FT and just spend the extra money on track time (IE practice)
There is barely a difference. Plus the FT has the spine with which you can tune the car's stiffness.

The only folks who would really recommend the BMI are folks who didn't get the FT.

Get the FT and be done with it. You get more parts and extras for the $$$.
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I had a BMI TC4 and ran another touring car and now have FT TC4. Very similiar. Batteries on the BMIare moved forward some. The FT has a nice setup with alum camber link mounts and non cam style motor mount. I like the spine setup for the FT and especially if you race carpet.

If you already have a decked out Team TC4 then a BMi setup might be nice to have since you need no hopups but if your starting new then the FT TC4 is a better deal.

I liked my BMI version so if the FT TC4 version works as nice as my BMI did then I will be happy.
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WOW!!! Soviet knows alot about the differences between the BMI and FT TC4. Doesnt hurt to have facts dude.

They both will work fine. My TC4 kit is for those who have purchased a Team TC4 and dont want to start from scratch. I moved the electronics and battery position along with changing the steering geometry a bit. They are both rigid enough for high bite carpet.i went to a 3mm chassis plate because of the roll center change. I had better results with it. The differences between the FT TC4 and the BMI TC4 are not that drastic. You will enjoy either car. It will just come down to which will work out easier for your wallet. If you have a Team TC4 then it will be cheaper to get my kit and achieve the same result as spending 3 times that on a whole new car and going through the trouble of trying to sell your Team car. If you are starting from scratch,it may be a little cheaper to just get the FT.Hope this helps
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WOW!!! Soviet knows alot about the differences between the BMI and FT TC4. Doesnt hurt to have facts dude.

They both will work fine. My TC4 kit is for those who have purchased a Team TC4 and dont want to start from scratch. I moved the electronics and battery position along with changing the steering geometry a bit. They are both rigid enough for high bite carpet.i went to a 3mm chassis plate because of the roll center change. I had better results with it. The differences between the FT TC4 and the BMI TC4 are not that drastic. You will enjoy either car. It will just come down to which will work out easier for your wallet. If you have a Team TC4 then it will be cheaper to get my kit and achieve the same result as spending 3 times that on a whole new car and going through the trouble of trying to sell your Team car. If you are starting from scratch,it may be a little cheaper to just get the FT.Hope this helps
Jason your BMI products speak for themself. Some of the best after market graphite conversions on the market for some of the best touring cars out. I have ran 3 different BMI conversion cars (HPIR PRO4, TC3 and TC4) and all cars worked better with the BMI conversions. Especially my TC3 was very noticable change in handling. TC4 had alot more steering with the conversion and was more consistant than the tub chassis.
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I dont think theres any question that the BMI kit is a great choice. It's just like Jason said though...it was designed before the FT car for a tub car conversion. If you have a tub car or can get one really cheap it's the way to go. If you are starting from scratch then you might want the FT.
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id take neither ! ikno im geting Stephen Sobottka convertion kit for the TC4 its goin to be batter than the BMI and FT kit. his dad and him were working on it them selfs and Stephen was testing it in clevland this weekend and it perty darn whel
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id take neither ! ikno im geting Stephen Sobottka convertion kit for the TC4 its goin to be batter than the BMI and FT kit. his dad and him were working on it them selfs and Stephen was testing it in clevland this weekend and it perty darn whel
Hey always interested in stuff for the TC4 so it can only help us all. More ideas the better chance to make the car better. Nice to see some pics of his car sometime.
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yea the Stephen Sobottka kit comes wit alot of new stuff like shorter A arms , wich is better for foam im realy excited for it
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i cant comment on the car for onroad, but for a clay oval i love the bmi car. bought my tc4 used on ebay for 70, plus bmi conv. a have a competition car for less than 250, how much is thw ft tc4?

dont get me wrong, jason knows im a tamiya guy, but the only non tamiya product on my shelf is a BMI tc4, and soon to be a BMI 12!
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WOW!!! Soviet knows alot about the differences between the BMI and FT TC4. Doesnt hurt to have facts dude.

They both will work fine. My TC4 kit is for those who have purchased a Team TC4 and dont want to start from scratch. I moved the electronics and battery position along with changing the steering geometry a bit. They are both rigid enough for high bite carpet.i went to a 3mm chassis plate because of the roll center change. I had better results with it. The differences between the FT TC4 and the BMI TC4 are not that drastic. You will enjoy either car. It will just come down to which will work out easier for your wallet. If you have a Team TC4 then it will be cheaper to get my kit and achieve the same result as spending 3 times that on a whole new car and going through the trouble of trying to sell your Team car. If you are starting from scratch,it may be a little cheaper to just get the FT.Hope this helps
I simply stated that it's cheaper to start out with the FT TC4. Plus you get more extra parts, such as the diffs. If you own the Tubby version TC4 then the BMI is an extremely viable choice.

I have owned BMI products and they are 110% top notch. No offense intended.
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ok,i apologize for taking it the wrong way.no offense taken.
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