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Old 11-23-2005, 02:14 PM   #16
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You forgot about the other new GP3700 cells that Orion put on their webpage yesterday:

Team Orion is happy to introduce a truly special product for electric racers of all skill levels.

With incredible voltage and low internal resistance, Team Orionís GP3700SHV (super high voltage) Oscar Jansen Special Edition racing cells provide extra voltage and low internal resistance for maximum power and speed.

How do we create cells with such incredible attributes? It all starts with GPís special internal construction, optimized with Team Orionís exclusive V-Max voltage enhancement processes. The result is cells with an average voltage of between 1.210 and 1.229 with an internal resistance of between 1.6 and 1.8 milliohms - incredible!

These cells are perfect for stock and 19-turn class racers who can benefit from increased battery performance when motor performance is limited by regulations. Modified class racers with a smooth throttle finger can also take advantage of the increased output.

11423 GP3700SHV Oscar Jansen Team 6-cell

11427 GP3700SHV Oscar Jansen Team 4-ce
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Most US matchers don't use some weird way to inflate the numbers.

Is Cleveland considered to be a big race ? Lets see how well GP does at this race.
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HEY danny how abought coming out with the danny special 1.301 at 27.5 amps witha 8.23 cutoff ! that will sell some product
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We will continue to use our true 35 amp matching on TM4-35 units.
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Most US matchers don't use some weird way to inflate the numbers.
You make a good point Danny. Numbers are overrated. If customers would use on track experience rather than a set of numbers to determine which battery is best, I am sure even more would choose GP.

Everyone talks Lavco or TM but always fail to realize that most companies use some sort of custom enhhancer. The differences between companies occur at this point. The cells are all pretty much the same. it is what is done to them that makes one better than another.

I know why Orion's are better. I would let the cat out of the bag and promote the difference. But it is pretty easily copied so it has to be kept quiet.

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Is Cleveland considered to be a big race ? Lets see how well GP does at this race.
I think it is one of many big races throughout the year. Unfortunately there is a bigger one the same weekend in Europe that most of our team drivers are attending. But I think our attending drivers still have a good chance to win.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:36 PM   #21
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There were many compelling posts in this thread on both sides of the fence. What I need to know, are these the cells I want to run at the birds over the IB3800's? I just want to purchase what will help my car perform to it's optimum.
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I've used Orion/Peak batteries for almost 4 years...And I will continue to buy them. I've never had a bad Orion/Peak pack in comparison to some other matchers out there that I have gotten burned on. I know that when I buy and assemble one of their packs that my power requirements will be well taken care of.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:38 PM   #23
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There were many compelling posts in this thread on both sides of the fence. What I need to know, are these the cells I want to run at the birds over the IB3800's? I just want to purchase what will help my car perform to it's optimum.
Buy a pack of each, build them, and test them on the track. That should be the ultimate decision maker. Either pack is good, and if you use them both between now and the Birds, you'll have a good knowledge base to work with.
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Are the 3700's easier to maintain than the IB 3800's?
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You forgot about the other new GP3700 cells that Orion put on their webpage yesterday:

Team Orion is happy to introduce a truly special product for electric racers of all skill levels.

With incredible voltage and low internal resistance, Team Orion’s GP3700SHV (super high voltage) Oscar Jansen Special Edition racing cells provide extra voltage and low internal resistance for maximum power and speed.

How do we create cells with such incredible attributes? It all starts with GP’s special internal construction, optimized with Team Orion’s exclusive V-Max voltage enhancement processes. The result is cells with an average voltage of between 1.210 and 1.229 with an internal resistance of between 1.6 and 1.8 milliohms - incredible!

These cells are perfect for stock and 19-turn class racers who can benefit from increased battery performance when motor performance is limited by regulations. Modified class racers with a smooth throttle finger can also take advantage of the increased output.

11423 GP3700SHV Oscar Jansen Team 6-cell

11427 GP3700SHV Oscar Jansen Team 4-ce
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Rick most paying customers have decided that the IB3800 is the cell of choice. You must be reading this board and see what they have to say.

If you say a cell is a cell then why does Orion/Peak sell there cells with the little 1.16 GP sticker on them. These are especially picked out by GP as the top 10% cells.

Anway we can argue this as much as we want the paying customers will decide which cell is the best.
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There were many compelling posts in this thread on both sides of the fence. What I need to know, are these the cells I want to run at the birds over the IB3800's? I just want to purchase what will help my car perform to it's optimum.
You first need to start with a reputable company. Who is going to be there for you if you have a problem? Or to answer technical questions before and after you have made the purchase.

Asking that question is a problem in itself. With some many battery matching companies with so many representatives or team drivers, you are likely going to get biased answers that can be difficult to sort through. I personally would question a purchasing recommendation of anyone with a battery matching link in their signature or logo as their avatar.

I would look at, in no particular order:

1. what wins
2. technical advice availability (telephone)
3. customer service availability (telephone)
4. your past experiences
5. cost

I think you and others will be able to make a good decisions if you do your homework.
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"Wow" is right about those David Special packs. I wish we could get away with telling the consumers that "you don't need numbers" on the cell. But then again, I think the average RC racer is a little smarter than that...
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Jack, that's basically what Novak does with their packs. They give you a grade and guarantee the performance of their cells withing a range. Just imagine if that were the way everyone did their packs...you wouldn't have people so hung up on getting that extra .0000000001 volt that doesn't matter once they park it and have to be marshalled. Sometimes, battery numbers just turns into a pissing match anyways.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:55 PM   #30
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Got to love all the hype in the battery market.
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