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Old 11-19-2005, 10:54 AM   #1
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Well the new Battery rules were approved. Now anything should be legal (44mm). Since the new LiPoly 4800 is out let the new battery wars begin.By the way the vote was again Poor!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:58 AM   #2
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Let me get this staight ....

Those Orion 4800`s Li-po`s are legal in Roar events ?


If so , Tooo Bad for all those who brought the 3700~s ....
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Let me get this staight ....

Those Orion 4800`s Li-po`s are legal in Roar events ?


If so , Tooo Bad for all those who brought the 3700~s ....
LoL !

No, the lipo's are not legal. All the vote did was change roar's battery rule allowing the battery to be 1mm longer than previously. This put roars battery length rule in line with Ifmars's battery length rule.
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This is mistake by ROAR. GP and IB have both worked hard to keep there cell within the ROAR rules established by ROAR. Now ROAR has decided to change the rule. I believe EFRA is not allowing 44mm cells. It would of been allot easier for ROAR and EFRA to get IFMAR to change its rule.

Now ROAR has to allow GP and IB to upgrade the length of there cells.
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I agree it would have been 2 against 1 and that would have made a profound difference and pressured IFMAR to change its rules.
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This is mistake by ROAR. GP and IB have both worked hard to keep there cell within the ROAR rules established by ROAR. Now ROAR has decided to change the rule. I believe EFRA is not allowing 44mm cells. It would of been allot easier for ROAR and EFRA to get IFMAR to change its rule.

Now ROAR has to allow GP and IB to upgrade the length of there cells.
I totally agree but that would require ROAR to take initaitive and a leadership position. How likely is that to happen?
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Just remember this was voted on by the membership of roar. This was not just a decision by the excom. I am one of the people that has been unhappy with the leadership of roar, but I don't want people to single out Rick and Mike for this one. This one lays squarely on the membership that voted or even more didn't vote.
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i bet most that voted were under the impression that the 3800 and 3700 were both longer b/c they were at first and now they have been changed. so they voted so they would not have to get new cells
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Well, now the IP cells will be inferior by even more.....

An extra MM to the IB cell, can you say 500+ seconds of runtime easy...

Personally, I think ROAR should of just decided this rule as a governing body instead of letting the general membership vote....

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It seems like when roar makes a decision as a body as opposed to a vote we the members then complain about that too. Maybe they should have printed a little more infor on the ballot stating the current 3700's and 3800's meet the current rule and that one of the other blocks (efra) has not changed the rule. That is assuming that efra has not actually changed the rule.

I guess it would have been nice had the ballot had a little more info kinda like the regular voting ballots we receive at election time in our states. Has info showing pros and cons as well as what might be expected to happen with passage or defeat of the initiative.
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Especially a change this late in the game, as the date for cell submissions is already passed...

Any changes or updates done to the cells by GP or IB will now not be able to be applied for a year???

This was a horrendously misguided decision....not necessarily that the move was made (that could be debatable), but certainly the timing....
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Atleast this vote wasn't screwed up by Florida

Untill ROAR wakes up and discovers this little thing known as THE INTERNET and uses it properly. They will continue to have these issues.

My ideas.

Don't just send the Ballot in the Rev-up how about you E-Mail me one too?

Make rule changes clear. This battery rule change is a perfect example just say GP3700's, IB3800's, and IP3800's are now legal at ROAR events for 2006. That's it nice and clear so that everyone gets it.

P.S. I guess I'll wait for the new 44mm GP and IB cells
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Roar has stated that online voting is in the near future.
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So how good is an IB or a GP going to be with added length? If Li-polys are under 44mm and under 3800mAh are they going to be allowed? It almost sounds as if ROAR is going to switch to the IFMAR floating approval of as long as it is XXX number of days before a race.
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ROAR should contact EFRA and IFMAR and they should all make the decision together. I really don't see why members who don't really understand the complete picture should vote on this issue.

I tried emailing the person in charge for ROAR approval but he never replied. I would of liked to help out on this matter and give my point of view based on what IB has told us.

We will reccomend that IB changes the length of the 3800. They have asked us to keep them informed on ROARs decision. ROAR will not be able to ban a longer IB cell as they changed the rule after the cells were submitted. So if this rule goes into effect look for slightly longer IB cells in the future. Based from what IB tells us the extra length will allow for a bit more capacity.
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