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Old 11-14-2005, 01:49 PM   #16
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You think they will rerelease the Sauber C12 if these others do well?
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It is the tub like chassis with a tbar...
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You think they will rerelease the Sauber C12 if these others do well?
Thats the F1 right? Not sure if its F102 or 103. But at any rate, i havent heard Tamiya are bringing back any F1 cars. only the C type chassis are making a comeback, as I 'think' tamiya are adding it to the class list for TCS. Dont quote me tho I have my treasured F103-TRF and F201-TRF on my shelf F103, rubber tyres, Acto motors on carpet.... awesome fun. You spend the first 3-4 laps warming the tyres up (before tyre warmers) then your lap times drop a second or two!
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Does anyone have any chassis pictures or pictures of the bodies?
Performula - Take a look at page 75 of the Tamiya Championship Series thread in Racing Forums. I posted a picture of my Mercedes C11 body and chassis there. I have an original Mazda 787B still new in box, a reissued Mercedes that I already ran at the Tamiya R&D track in So Cal, and a rerelease Jag new in the box,a nd an F40 new in box.

The cars only come with foams and the F103 rubber tires will not work on the rear. On Tamiya's track that is sprayed, the traction is good, and I was eating up 4WD sedans with 23T motors with just a 27T stock motor in mine. On an untreated outdoor surface, the car had zero grip and was no fun.

The rerelease do not have an esc with them. You need to add all the electronics. Aside from the original bodies, you can also tell a re-release by the plastic parts. Part of the x-frame on the originals were colored (Mazda is green, Jag in blue, Ferrari F40 in red, etc.). The re-release have all black plastic parts.

Ray - The group C bodies will not fit on the F103 chassis. When I was at Tamiya (yeah, it was my car Hebiki borrowed and only the battery running out was how we were able to pry the controller from his hand), a guy had a F103LM Toyota TS020 kit. The Toyota looked like a 1/12 kit next to the Mercedes C11.

Hebiki - I will be at Tamiya this coming Saturday with the Group C car again. You can run a full fresh pack this time if you want.

Trackdesigner71 - Sauber C12 was an F103 chassis F1 car. Completely different. Tamiya has done a couple of reissues in F1 like the Ferrari 312T3 and Tyrrell P34. However, all the reissues have been cars originally from about '93 and earlier. The C12 was a late '90's car so it would probably be a long time before they did. Also, they usually just release the ones that were real popular and the C12 body is pretty plain.

Rumor has it the MAzda 787B may be a Japan only release.
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wow-looks like a 1/10th pan car on steroids. Or a bit of RC10....

Well-one thing I will say is there will be one of these in my house very soon.

Thanks for the pics and inof KevinCBR
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Early Word From On High is that Group C will NOT be a 2006 TCS class.
Sorry to be the bearer of these tidings...
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:06 PM   #22
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Early Word From On High is that Group C will NOT be a 2006 TCS class.
Sorry to be the bearer of these tidings...
Maybe if I show up every Saturday at Tamiya with the Mercedes C11, and enough people say ooooh and aaaah a lot, and "it's how cheap to hop it up", maybe Fred will get persuaded otherwise.

Option 2: we all move to Canada since they are going to run Group C for their TCS.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:57 PM   #23
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Ray - The group C bodies will not fit on the F103 chassis. When I was at Tamiya (yeah, it was my car Hebiki borrowed and only the battery running out was how we were able to pry the controller from his hand)
um yah. get your facts straight. i ran your car 5-6 laps. TOPS.
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here is a picture of the Mazda 787B from the Tokyo Hobby Show
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Anyone of you "informed guys" know if they will be offering the clear bodies ?
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Cool Mazda 787

The Brits will be getting the Mazada 787 - http://www.goldstarstockists.com/pla...-pre-order.htm
They are taking preorders.
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now if they were just built to the real car design :\
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One more question please. Standard 3 bolt 1/10th foams on rear and 1/8x5/16 flanged fronts (i.e. standard 1/10th pan car) or are they a Tamiya only rim?

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I hope KevinCBR doesnt mind, but I touched up his pics and found more detail in the shadows.
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Speaking of the TS020, a local shop still has it on the shelf here, I believe, as well as some other cool Tamiya kits of late 90s vintage.

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