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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


Below OLD Rear Motor Content ---
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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 09-17-2019, 09:51 AM
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This is very attractive.
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Impatient to see how all these small screws and moving parts are affecting the tweak...
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Originally Posted by Airwave
Impatient to see how all these small screws and moving parts are affecting the tweak...
I just received the PSM HTC chassis for my BD9... it's a tweak free design (flex can't be adjusted but the weights can still be added). Hopefully PSM will offer a similar chassis for the AMX.
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Originally Posted by LAGuy
For those using SPR08 (Mod) in front, what’s a good gap to start with the body?
Good starting point at SPR08 adjusting with any body shell is to have 6..7 mm gap between front splitter and ground at normal ride height and 1 mm gap there when you press on the front body posts and the front end of car touches the ground.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich
Good starting point at SPR08 adjusting with any body shell is to have 6..7 mm gap between front splitter and ground at normal ride height and 1 mm gap there when you press on the front body posts and the front end of car touches the ground.
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Hey all.
sinds the indoor season is starting again i was wondering if someone thas tested the outdoor "new" rollcenters indoor ?
meaning:
Rear under arms 3mm
Rear top arms 3.75mm
Front under arm 2mm - 2.25mm
Front top arms 4.5mm

or going back to the "Normal" for indoor .
What are your findings here .

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Originally Posted by Peterke
Hey all.
sinds the indoor season is starting again i was wondering if someone thas tested the outdoor "new" rollcenters indoor ?
meaning:
Rear under arms 3mm
Rear top arms 3.75mm
Front under arm 2mm - 2.25mm
Front top arms 4.5mm

or going back to the "Normal" for indoor .
What are your findings here .

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Hey,
The outdoor rollcenters can be bit to much for indoor.
I went yesterday first indoor tests. I started with my ETS Daun setup (http://site.petitrc.com/reglages/awe...aun2019020810/) which worked flawlessly.
Later i raised lower arms and top inner links by 1mm each with good results. But it needs more testing still.
So please feel free to share your toughts of your own tests here with us :-)
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Originally Posted by !Mad Max!
Hey,
The outdoor rollcenters can be bit to much for indoor.
I went yesterday first indoor tests. I started with my ETS Daun setup (http://site.petitrc.com/reglages/awe...aun2019020810/) which worked flawlessly.
Later i raised lower arms and top inner links by 1mm each with good results. But it needs more testing still.
So please feel free to share your toughts of your own tests here with us :-)
Thanks alot Max,
the moment u raised the lower and top inner links did you get a feel of more side bite of more shifting of the car (left/right ) ?
or what was the major differecen in feel whit this change ?
As soon as my alu foor the mmcx is in ill start from the "normal" rollcenters and go from there moving upwards .
Looking forward to get testing indoor.
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Originally Posted by Peterke
Thanks alot Max,
the moment u raised the lower and top inner links did you get a feel of more side bite of more shifting of the car (left/right ) ?
or what was the major differecen in feel whit this change ?
As soon as my alu foor the mmcx is in ill start from the "normal" rollcenters and go from there moving upwards .
Looking forward to get testing indoor.
The car feelt more stable and planted without doing anything worse than before.
I feelt more cornerspeed at the same time. Its a bit like on Asphalt also lately.
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Originally Posted by !Mad Max!
The car feelt more stable and planted without doing anything worse than before.
I feelt more cornerspeed at the same time. Its a bit like on Asphalt also lately.
A friend of mine ran the rollcenters just like outdoor on Low/med carpet (carbon chassis mmcx)
he found that the car did not slide or anything, lill more direct. but further, he found it way better to drive .
he went down to on the arms to 1 mm same on top (daun) setup , here he found more push and slide wile having the same damper/spring settings.

From what i hear it could somthing good .
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Originally Posted by !Mad Max!
Hey,
The outdoor rollcenters can be bit to much for indoor.
I went yesterday first indoor tests. I started with my ETS Daun setup (http://site.petitrc.com/reglages/awe...aun2019020810/) which worked flawlessly.
Later i raised lower arms and top inner links by 1mm each with good results. But it needs more testing still.
So please feel free to share your toughts of your own tests here with us :-)
Max, I have two A800 Mid Motor/Long Arm cars that I run on very smooth asphalt, medium size track. I run 17.5 touring car with one and USGT with the other. I've been running the old setups with 0-.5 under lower arms in the front and 1mm rear. I also am running the ultra long upper links on the USGT, the ones that screw into the bulkheads. I just changed my 17.5 car to your latest asphalt setup and will run it this weekend. Do you feel that it's more imperative to run these higher roll centers with good tires (Rush 36) versus the USGT tires? Or should I also convert my USGT to the higher roll centers? Thanks, Glenn.
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Originally Posted by glennhl
Max, I have two A800 Mid Motor/Long Arm cars that I run on very smooth asphalt, medium size track. I run 17.5 touring car with one and USGT with the other. I've been running the old setups with 0-.5 under lower arms in the front and 1mm rear. I also am running the ultra long upper links on the USGT, the ones that screw into the bulkheads. I just changed my 17.5 car to your latest asphalt setup and will run it this weekend. Do you feel that it's more imperative to run these higher roll centers with good tires (Rush 36) versus the USGT tires? Or should I also convert my USGT to the higher roll centers? Thanks, Glenn.

Hey, thats not so easy to answer for me, because i never drove the USGT tires on aspahlt with any Touring Car. So i can not give you a 100% correct information about this.
But we used the higher rollcenter setups with many different "good tires" and it was always faster for us.
Which means i would give it a try for sure, and in worst case you can go back to your old setup.
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Hmm, wonder what else is new in the kit....!
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Hmm, wonder what else is new in the kit....!
The Sharpie conveniently covers up the steering bell cranks across two drawings... coincidence?
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so many changes ....... ive noticed 4 so far just from the pic
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