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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 02-07-2019, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ryan391
Has anyone set their car up for VTA? I did the and the Protoform VTA wheels rub on the steering arm. I have added some washers, but this does not seem right.

Anyone care to share their setup.
With the LS steering arms I ended up dremelimg them down some to get more clearance the VTA wheels just don't have bear the clearance of a TC wheel.

As far as setup it was pretty much the same except I had to run 1-1.75mm shims on the button of the WL hubs to get a 5-5.4mm ride height once the Protoform VTA tires really ballooned up.
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Has anyone set their car up for VTA? I did the and the Protoform VTA wheels rub on the steering arm. I have added some washers, but this does not seem right.

Anyone care to share their setup.
I run a 1mm wheel spacer. Car was great at snowbirds. Finished 3rd in the A main.
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Originally Posted by ryan391
Has anyone set their car up for VTA? I did the and the Protoform VTA wheels rub on the steering arm. I have added some washers, but this does not seem right.

Anyone care to share their setup.
I dremeled out the steering arms also. This is my setup sheet for our black CRC carpet track. The car is dialed in with this setup on my 800x. see the attachment.
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Originally Posted by Adam W.
I dremeled out the steering arms also. This is my setup sheet for our black CRC carpet track. The car is dialed in with this setup on my 800x. see the attachment.

Thank you,

I do have a couple of question, in the middle of the sheet there is a choice of HIgh or Low, Front and Back, What is that referring too?

What weights do you use to get to 28g in the front?

Do you glue sidwalls?

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Has anyone ran aluminum front arms with carbon rear? I want to try the long carbon arms for the rear, but also want to get the +1.5s for the front in aluminum. Also, what effect does the screw in the hubs have?
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Thank you,

I do have a couple of question, in the middle of the sheet there is a choice of HIgh or Low, Front and Back, What is that referring too?

What weights do you use to get to 28g in the front?

Do you glue sidwalls?
high/low is spool/diff height. 28g ia an ounce.....could be 4 7g lead cubes or pcs of tungsten?
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How do you adjust the spool diff height?
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Thank you,

I do have a couple of question, in the middle of the sheet there is a choice of HIgh or Low, Front and Back, What is that referring too?

What weights do you use to get to 28g in the front?

Do you glue sidwalls?
If you notice on your spool and differential there are teeth that you use to adjust the height and the tension of the belt. You will notice there is a dot on the outside ring of the teeth. Were that dot is, the plastic is thicker and that thickness adjusts the diff/spool up and down on the bulkhead. When the dot is down it raises the spool/diff and when its on top it lowers the spool/diff. The forward and back adjusts the tension on the belt. I run VTA so I dont have a lot of tension on the belt to free up the motor. I work at a car dealership and I found these large lead 28g stick on wheel weights. They work great and are low profile to fit under the steering bell crank. I do glue the sidewalls on the front tires up to the tread line. After each run I clean the tires with either Simple Green or a little non-chlorinated brake cleaner on a rag. The tires get nasty so I wear a set of gloves to keep my hands clean.
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How do you adjust the spool diff height?
Look at pages 11 and 12 of the manual.

It's the same as most other cars.

Remove the two upper arm holders (AM19) that hold the diff in and lift the diff up. Rotate the splined bearing housing (P110) to adjust diff height and belt tension. If you look at the bearing housings, you'll see they're eccentric. Rotate them to position the diff bearings higher or lower. Also forward and rearward to adjust belt tension.
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Originally Posted by Adam W.
If you notice on your spool and differential there are teeth that you use to adjust the height and the tension of the belt. You will notice there is a dot on the outside ring of the teeth. Were that dot is, the plastic is thicker and that thickness adjusts the diff/spool up and down on the bulkhead. When the dot is down it raises the spool/diff and when its on top it lowers the spool/diff. The forward and back adjusts the tension on the belt. I run VTA so I dont have a lot of tension on the belt to free up the motor. I work at a car dealership and I found these large lead 28g stick on wheel weights. They work great and are low profile to fit under the steering bell crank. I do glue the sidewalls on the front tires up to the tread line. After each run I clean the tires with either Simple Green or a little non-chlorinated brake cleaner on a rag. The tires get nasty so I wear a set of gloves to keep my hands clean.
I understand what you are talking about with the dot. I set mine per the manual but never changed them. I think my rear is one click forward of center on top. Where is yours?

I glued my sidewalls and maybe my tires are not broken in yet, but i have no steering. I had steering with TC tires, but I have maybe 80-100 laps on them. I have been chasing steering. Very frustrating especially when I see others with VTA traction rolling.

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I understand what you are talking about with the dot. I set mine per the manual but never changed them. I think my rear is one click forward of center on top. Where is yours?

I glued my sidewalls and maybe my tires are not broken in yet, but i have no steering. I had steering with TC tires, but I have maybe 80-100 laps on them. I have been chasing steering. Very frustrating especially when I see others with VTA traction rolling.
The dot is going to vary on the tension and age of your belt. I think I have mine about one dot forward on the bottom. Make sure they are the same on both sides though. Check your steering degrees. I have mine set at 25 degrees. I had them set at about 32 degrees and was over-steering the car which caused a lack of front traction. When I pulled it back to 25 degrees it made a big difference.
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I'm currently running the MMCX/aluminum chassis with Brandon Clements setup from IIC equipped with a 13.5T boosted setup. The track I am racing at is Yatabe Arena and were using Sorex 28's (Glued to 59 cm) on Black CRC carpet. At first the setup worked really well, but soon after the car was doing some strange things coming out of a 180 turn. After the apex and under hard acceleration the front right wheel would lift off the ground and the car would sometimes wobble. The the droop, ride height, and all other settings are spot on and the car performs really well on 98% of the track, but it's this one section that's causing issues

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Gonna sound crazy, but try some glue on the rear tires. 57.5 - 58mm. My car will sometimes do weird things like this on the black rug and it often seems to be initiated by a lift from the rear.

I really like Gee's setup on the MM. No X brace on the top deck.
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Originally Posted by EDWARD2003
I'm currently running the MMCX/aluminum chassis with Brandon Clements setup from IIC equipped with a 13.5T boosted setup. The track I am racing at is Yatabe Arena and were using Sorex 28's (Glued to 59 cm) on Black CRC carpet. At first the setup worked really well, but soon after the car was doing some strange things coming out of a 180 turn. After the apex and under hard acceleration the front right wheel would lift off the ground and the car would sometimes wobble. The the droop, ride height, and all other settings are spot on and the car performs really well on 98% of the track, but it's this one section that's causing issues

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
check your dampers they could have slipped in the clamp/mount and you are not getting the full movement of them
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Gonna sound crazy, but try some glue on the rear tires. 57.5 - 58mm. My car will sometimes do weird things like this on the black rug and it often seems to be initiated by a lift from the rear.

I really like Gee's setup on the MM. No X brace on the top deck.
Can you post Gee's MM set up? I cant find it. Thanks
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