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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 01-03-2017, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by scoyle
Hello, quick question, I have broken an SPR02 on my car, are SPR02H the updated version?
Spr02h only a single manufacturing run

Your options now are a d2.2 upgrade
4x at41-2
1x SPR02X or spr02h3
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If one doesn't want or need to buy the veins. You can do as I did, I ordered spr02h3 and ground each one down to 1mm versus 1.8mm to fit inside the vein output... Fit was perfect and haven't had problems since.
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Is there an easy way to get the layshaft pully off the layshaft, don't know if my bearings have started to seize but would like to get the pully off and bearing out to check but it does not want to move.
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You can get what seems like centre pulley bearing noise by over tightening the rear belt, found that out myself!
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I noticed my pulley didn't want to come off also. I took it apart. Finally worked it off. The fix I came up with for easier maintenance was to take the lip off of the end of the shaft it rides on. Apparently the screw had been over tightened and it mushroomed the end of the shaft. Took a small file and put a bevel on the end of the shaft and all is well. Slides right off without issue.
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Originally Posted by scoyle
Is there an easy way to get the layshaft pully off the layshaft, don't know if my bearings have started to seize but would like to get the pully off and bearing out to check but it does not want to move.
Just be patient with it and wiggle it off. You can use a hobby knife to gently work around the back of it. Taking the motor mount off makes it easier.
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Curious why the A800X goes back to AM14A arms, when I upgraded my A800 to LS1 I was told AM14LS was essential, and most people did the pair at the same time. Is AM14LS an upgrade on AM14A for the A800X?
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Originally Posted by nexxus
Curious why the A800X goes back to AM14A arms, when I upgraded my A800 to LS1 I was told AM14LS was essential, and most people did the pair at the same time. Is AM14LS an upgrade on AM14A for the A800X?
Hi, don't want to make my smart ass but if you look at the attached pictures you can see that the "standard" position for the AM14A is identical as the AM14-3 and AM14-1 arms.
The AM14A vs AM14LS "optional" position is really close also...just the "standard" position that is a little bit longer on the LS.
My assumption is that if you want just one AM14 that the AM14A is a good compromise for a lot of situation.
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Is there anybody who have problems with the LS1 on carpet with a bit hairy surface? it is binding after a few runs because of dirt or dust.
The LS1 is standard in the new kit is this tested in this circumstance.?
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Originally Posted by eded1
Is there anybody who have problems with the LS1 on carpet with a bit hairy surface? it is binding after a few runs because of dirt or dust.
The LS1 is standard in the new kit is this tested in this circumstance.?
I think you need to check after every couple of runs. Especially on carpet.
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Originally Posted by eded1
Is there anybody who have problems with the LS1 on carpet with a bit hairy surface? it is binding after a few runs because of dirt or dust.
The LS1 is standard in the new kit is this tested in this circumstance.?
I haven't had any issues. I just brush it out every run or so, but it hasn't been a problem yet. It seems to be a much easier to maintain design than the ball bearing style racks I've seen in the past.

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I have a A800A for sale if anyone is interested
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Originally Posted by Korey Harbke
I haven't had any issues. I just brush it out every run or so, but it hasn't been a problem yet. It seems to be a much easier to maintain design than the ball bearing style racks I've seen in the past.

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I run on different tracks and it seem how older the track the binding occur quicker, i think this is due to tire additive soaked in to the carpet.
I am curious what if it was made with roller bearings.
For now i am using the old steering links.
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Originally Posted by eded1
I run on different tracks and it seem how older the track the binding occur quicker, i think this is due to tire additive soaked in to the carpet.
I am curious what if it was made with roller bearings.
For now i am using the old steering links.
Bearings were already tried... The production design removed bearings to massively increase reliability
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And other design had slop with bearings. The new design eliminated as much slop as possible.
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