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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 05-03-2024, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by trilerian
Finally got all my parts to put my car back together. Interesting discovery... I bought a set of arms, C204-S. I thought these were a direct replacement for the stock arms (well, I guess they still are). However the new version looks to be a little beefier on the leading side of the arms, in the front orientation.
Photos please of before and after.
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Originally Posted by glennhl
Photos please of before and after.
It isnít a big change. I only noticed because I was making sure the arm was the right length and put them back to back.

New arm is on the right.


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Did you measure them, I can hardly tell the difference looking at them.
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Originally Posted by glennhl
Did you measure them, I can hardly tell the difference looking at them.
I did not measure it. I’m happy for the extra material…

Here is a pic with the arms stacked on top of each other. This was how I noticed it. To note, my car came from the 3rd batch of orders. So this may have changed awhile ago...

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Still learning the MMX shock settings. This is from what I have been reading. Correct me if I am wrong.

With arrangement I.
"Increase A-distance to increase damping and spring rates." Just like switching to stiffer springs in regular cars.
"Decrease B distance to increase spring rate at the fixed damping rate value." Just like standing up the shocks in regular cars.



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Originally Posted by bd007
Still learning the MMX shock settings. This is from what I have been reading. Correct me if I am wrong.

With arrangement I.
"Increase A-distance to increase damping and spring rates." Just like switching to stiffer springs in regular cars.
"Decrease B distance to increase spring rate at the fixed damping rate value." Just like standing up the shocks in regular cars.

A distance affects damping. Changing spring rate in a conventional car does not.

B distance does not affect damping. Changing shock angle in a conventional car does.
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Pretty sure A distance affects damping and spring rate.
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So whos building fresh kits for outdoor season?

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Have one on the bench waiting to be finished.
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I have a carpet and an asphalt car probably gonna sell both
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I have a carpet and an asphalt car probably gonna sell both
AMX USA will have fresh kits when you come back!

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AMX USA will have fresh kits when you come back!

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As I stated before, I am still learning my a800mmx. I think itís a good car at an excellent used car price point. However, I do curious how much better an a800R would be. I noticed the dampers are the major upgrades. Does it worth twice the price?
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Originally Posted by bd007
As I stated before, I am still learning my a800mmx. I think itís a good car at an excellent used car price point. However, I do curious how much better an a800R would be. I noticed the dampers are the major upgrades. Does it worth twice the price?
What is .2 second per lap worth?
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