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Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 05-25-2022, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by phatboislim View Post
I would think id need thicker not thinner shims seeing as tho im abnormally shredding gears. But yes, overall that is my procedure of rebuilding the diff aside from the p46r ball. I've never had that in my diff since I've this diff. This is how I've been building mine parts wise
If you're running the kit "big" shim it is .3mm thick.
If you're running the "small" shim it is .4mm thick.
If you run the small shims with .3mm thickness at some point you'll eat the gears.
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When you say big you mean the diameter I'm assuming. I'm going to make a order today. If it shreds again I'll just make it my stock car again
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All of you old timers, do you miss anything about the A700?
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All of you old timers, do you miss anything about the A700?
sounds like nothing is missed

performance is better. only the drive train sound is 'less'
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Well...got the diff back together with the smaller diameter. .4mm shims. Hopefully it wont shred on me this weekend...if it does im putting a 21.5 in it with the shorter arms and run that. Cant shred with a spec class.
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Guess I'll try both shims together since the diff didn't engage at all now. Never dealt with this kind of nonsense on a diff before. I have to attribute it to mod, but then again I'm the only one with the issue
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Originally Posted by phatboislim View Post
Guess I'll try both shims together since the diff didn't engage at all now. Never dealt with this kind of nonsense on a diff before. I have to attribute it to mod, but then again I'm the only one with the issue
there are 4 planetary gears, they have shims behind them. Also there are two large shims, one behind each of the two large gears. Wondering if you forgot the 4 shims , one behind each planetary gear ?

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Old 06-08-2022, 09:55 AM
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Please measure thickness of two big G08 gears.
We still don't have this info from you.
There are two versions of these gears:
G08-3.95 ~3,95mm thick and not suitable for this diff.
G08 ~4,35mm thick and suitable for this diff.
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If you are running the correct 4,35mm thick G08 gears, then there is only one other thing I can imagine would cause the gears not to engage. What if you cross threaded the diff housings and they aren't getting screwed down all the way? Maybe there is a measurement you can take on the outside of the diff housing to confirm the housings halves are seated all the way.
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If the housing wasn't screwed down all the way you'd think the oil would just piss itself all over the rear end of the car no?
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After running almost 2 weekends ago i haven't touched my cars until starting last night.... here are the measurements and they are the right gears and I'm using the shims on the way gears as its been designed. I'm about to use 2 shims on the big gears


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Hi Folks,

how often do you go through shock bearings? I'm not getting much mileage out of them until they become gritty and/or seized, esp. the rears as they are more exposed...

And as shock maintenance on this car is (let's face it...) a major time-consuming turnoff, although this has gotten much better post-ADC's for me, this remains an issue in my books.

Would adding a larger OD shim in between the shock "shaft" and the bearing help?

Don't get me wrong, I love the car, but I'm always looking for ways to improve the AMX's appalling running-time-to-wrenching-time ratio

Thanks,
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Hi Folks,

how often do you go through shock bearings? I'm not getting much mileage out of them until they become gritty and/or seized, esp. the rears as they are more exposed...

And as shock maintenance on this car is (let's face it...) a major time-consuming turnoff, although this has gotten much better post-ADC's for me, this remains an issue in my books.

Would adding a larger OD shim in between the shock "shaft" and the bearing help?

Don't get me wrong, I love the car, but I'm always looking for ways to improve the AMX's appalling running-time-to-wrenching-time ratio

Thanks,
Paul
Paul - not hitting things helps w/ bearing life . alternatively we've had luck with higher quality bearings. the gold standard are the Aura from Avidrc-

https://www.avidrc.com/product/1/bea...-bearings.html

we've been running this bearings in the USA for years now. installing them in the hubs is nearly a bullet proof solution.

i'm looking to try the new Awesomatix ceramics this indoor season (the boards really test bearings!)
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Originally Posted by Lonestar View Post
Hi Folks,

how often do you go through shock bearings? I'm not getting much mileage out of them until they become gritty and/or seized, esp. the rears as they are more exposed...

And as shock maintenance on this car is (let's face it...) a major time-consuming turnoff, although this has gotten much better post-ADC's for me, this remains an issue in my books.

Would adding a larger OD shim in between the shock "shaft" and the bearing help?

Don't get me wrong, I love the car, but I'm always looking for ways to improve the AMX's appalling running-time-to-wrenching-time ratio

Thanks,
Paul
Outdoors (so no boards to hit) they seem to last forever. I'm still on the ones that came with the ADC caps 12 months ago, and they're still nice and smooth.
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