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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 10-16-2021, 05:18 PM
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wstuart, personally I like Max Machler Asphalt setups, they always work well. Here's his latest setup for his 13.5 car. https://site.petitrc.com/reglages/aw...orn2021091719/
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Originally Posted by wstuart
Allright experts I could use some help. I just bought a box stock a800mmx carbon chassis.

I will be running it in 17.5 TC on this smooth parking lot track. I would describe the grip as extra medium:
https://youtu.be/_BwsyxA7D30

Parts questions:
From the track video, are there any parts you think I should get?
Soft springs?
One-piece top deck? Soft top deck?
Long arms? Carbon? Aluminum?
any others?
what battery - LCG? Shorty? What mah?

Could you all point me to a setup you would reccomend for 17.5 on this track?

I used to race the shaft driven awesomatix like 7 or 8 years ago. I have some experience with the suspension but it's been a long time and I'm just getting back in. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I'm running sanwa esc and pgs servo (so I can control things from my radio). I've already raced on this track once - I'm actually the orange and white car in the video - thats my TC7.1
for asphalt, these 3 will make the most performance difference--
1. 1pc top deck
2. 25% and 15% PSS options for the front spring
3. BDL
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Has anyone tried the new alum chassis? Wondering if it’s worth the price tag? Also any suggestion on how to set the bdl screws in the front?

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Has anyone played around with arm lenghts ? +7 +8 +9 Front/Rear, different combinations ?
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Originally Posted by Speedychris22
Has anyone tried the new alum chassis? Wondering if it’s worth the price tag? Also any suggestion on how to set the bdl screws in the front?
the C01MMA chassis moves the battery forward (returning to the same position as the carbon Mid Motor). it also has 4 nice holes up front to mount 10g round weights to. a lot of the team guys are doing this now.

on the bdl -- you just have to experiment. or you can copy what others have done/posted. it is very body + mounting specific. if the top of the bdl screw gets 'polished' from touching on the body you know you're doing the correct thing. ultimately the body need to be suspended by the bdl most of the time when the car is in motion --- just not when it is unloaded (such as full speed down the straight).
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Originally Posted by Pharane0
Has anyone played around with arm lenghts ? +7 +8 +9 Front/Rear, different combinations ?
i haven't yet --- the +7 arms are to yield more traction. i believe some folks will try them in the rear w/ +8 up front.
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Hi all,

can anyone offer some advice for running in hot conditions?
My car was great during the morning both days of last event, but once the track temp increased to 50-55 deg C the car was near impossible to drive.
bulk oversteer on corner entry, managed to keep it off the grass but my pace dropped off too much,

thicker diff perhaps? or maybe thicker shock oils?

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Do you have to use 32R tires or can you use 36R
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Originally Posted by RKeasler
Do you have to use 32R tires or can you use 36R
hey mate,

the volante V9X are the new 36R from Volante
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Ok wasn't sure but thinking with those temperatures tires may be overheating
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Originally Posted by 3DFLYER
hey mate,

the volante V9X are the new 36R from Volante
We have run a lot in very hot conditions (outside asphalt) here in Arizona. We run the Rush 36X in the winter time, but always go to the 40X in the summer. If I started getting really loose, I'd always soften my rear springs. I would run a front wheel rate of around 70 and the rear wheel rate around 95. Good luck.
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400 cst oil looks too soft for such high temperature.
F51%/R49% weight distribution on asphalt is unusual refering to the team's experience.
Usually we use such weight distribution on CRC black carpet at very high grip conditions.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich
400 cst oil looks too soft for such high temperature.
F51%/R49% weight distribution on asphalt is unusual refering to the team's experience.
Usually we use such weight distribution on CRC black carpet at very high grip conditions.
how much less weight to the front do you suggest Oleg? Presume 49/51 or thereabouts - so move 20g rear?
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Originally Posted by cplus
how much less weight to the front do you suggest Oleg? Presume 49/51 or thereabouts - so move 20g rear?
2% shift to rear means ~35 g from front holes to rear holes.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich
400 cst oil looks too soft for such high temperature.
F51%/R49% weight distribution on asphalt is unusual refering to the team's experience.
Usually we use such weight distribution on CRC black carpet at very high grip conditions.
I have gone to 500cst. Tried it last night ended up adding more droop. Car seems a lot better Hot today so will try again 👍

The weight Balance is incorrect, I am running 49f 51R
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