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New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Originally Posted by Magnet Top View Post
The pre production car was at iic and other events prior to the official first production car that was shipped in October 2011. Perhaps Oleg may have sold you an early production car, if that’s the case, kudos to you ! :-) I just meant *virtually* nobody had seen the car.

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Default A800 MMXA VTA Wheel Clearance

I recently bought an A800MMXA kit and will be running it in VTA.

The front and rear inner wheels are rubbing the front steering arms and rear tow arms unless I modify and stray from kit instructions.

Do they make aluminum front steering arms and rear tow in arms that give VTA wheel clearance without me having to make any kind of modification like adding wheel shims, shaving (bad idea) the ball cups or grinding (worse idea) the arms that came with it?

If yes, what are the part numbers please?

I understand how I can use what came with the kit but would prefer not to modify if I donít have to.

Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by chuck in indy View Post
I recently bought an A800MMXA kit and will be running it in VTA.

The front and rear inner wheels are rubbing the front steering arms and rear tow arms unless I modify and stray from kit instructions.

Do they make aluminum front steering arms and rear tow in arms that give VTA wheel clearance without me having to make any kind of modification like adding wheel shims, shaving (bad idea) the ball cups or grinding (worse idea) the arms that came with it?

If yes, what are the part numbers please?

I understand how I can use what came with the kit but would prefer not to modify if I don’t have to.

Thanks in advance!
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I had the same problem and it need to be modify …No ..
You could just add .05mm shim for wheel clearance
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Originally Posted by chuck in indy View Post
I recently bought an A800MMXA kit and will be running it in VTA.

The front and rear inner wheels are rubbing the front steering arms and rear tow arms unless I modify and stray from kit instructions.

Do they make aluminum front steering arms and rear tow in arms that give VTA wheel clearance without me having to make any kind of modification like adding wheel shims, shaving (bad idea) the ball cups or grinding (worse idea) the arms that came with it?

If yes, what are the part numbers please?

I understand how I can use what came with the kit but would prefer not to modify if I don’t have to.

Thanks in advance!

Try AT13W that's what I use for VTA car.... The A800 series is made for what class you want to use it in IMHO..... your money right?
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Originally Posted by RKeasler View Post
Try AT13W that's what I use for VTA car.... The A800 series is made for what class you want to use it in IMHO..... your money right?
good to know .. I stop running VTA for awhile..... I didn't see that Thanks
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Took apart my loaner car to rebuild during this down time. Holy moly the amount of shims on this car. It’s going to be a learning curve...... :-/
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good to know .. I stop running VTA for awhile..... I didn't see that Thanks
I am looking for some AM14-1 steering arms from the A700 the angle for those are perfect for the front in VTA...hard to find so far
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I shimmed my wheels out and used a low profile wheels but from J concepts
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Originally Posted by RKeasler View Post
Try AT13W that's what I use for VTA car.... The A800 series is made for what class you want to use it in IMHO..... your money right?
My question on these is will it leave enough thread to put on wheels? To me, without knowing for sure, wouldnít this part be like adding a shim inside the wheel?

In order for the brand new premounted front vta wheels I have to space the wheel 2mm to keep from rubbing steering ball end. While this works it takes away option to run front end narrower if I need to.

Thanks in advance
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Yes it will leave enough to tighten wheels and that's with an extra .5 shim, nothing needed at all with A700 arms. Friend used those at the Birds worked well, yeah have to work around the option to narrow front end but it would still be relative to the rear which would also be wider I would think.
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I think the A700 arms (not sure what part number) are getting hard to find but Iíll try to find some. A800 MMCX is a cool kit, had a few older used versions but first one Iíve built, now I understand the mechanics of everything.

Thanks!
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Iím building a new MMX and donít think i have the front universal right, it can be moved in all directions but thereís a lot of friction at a point. Hard to explained. This is the US version axles. I did it according to the instructions and have the sleeve over it so everything seems to be in its place...any thoughts?? And by the way, the quality of these parts (so far) is amazing!
When I built my last mmx kit I had one of the front driveshafts causing a bit of friction that I traced to the ball and socket joint between the driveshaft and stub axle. I lightly sanded (1000 grit) the end of the socket and the friction was gone.
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Awesomatix USA will have another livestream tech tip series tomorrow night to go over sidewall gluing!

For VTA tires, best option is to space the wheel out. The older steering arms have geometry set for the older steering bellcranks, and wonít be right with the MMX single bellcrank.
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Awesomatix USA will have another livestream tech tip series tomorrow night to go over sidewall gluing!
Will it involve a Q-tip?
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Originally Posted by geeunit1014 View Post
Awesomatix USA will have another livestream tech tip series tomorrow night to go over sidewall gluing!

For VTA tires, best option is to space the wheel out. The older steering arms have geometry set for the older steering bellcranks, and wonít be right with the MMX single bellcrank.
Any chance these live streams are being recorded so they can be put on petitrc?
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