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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 10-07-2019, 08:17 AM
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2019 IIC seemed to have a lack of Awesomatix drivers this year and drivers overall. What’s the deal with the lack of Awesomatix drivers?
Just not a big race this year in general. Plus the NYGP will have over 250 entries this weekend at 360v2 that all awesomatix drivers will be at including some Euro drivers coming over for it. Plus a lot of the AMX team attended the Southern Nats at my place two weeks ago (over 185 entires at it). Just too many races close together.

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Indoor carpet season has begun and it time for racing! So Friday night, first time driving an rc car since February, car seemed good, but was over steering mid corner when getting on the throttle. This is pretty much a problem that I have always had. What are some setup changes that can help reduce the effect? I don't mean the rear breaks traction, but the front keeps turning just a touch too much. Enough to cause a wobble in my line, losing me time. I've got a futaba sr servo without a servo saver running in sr mode, so I think the steering electronics are good. I figure I could add a little more front droop, which could have the effect of making the car push a touch when getting on the throttle. Anything else? This is stock 21.5 racing with the xah evo, non mid motor, I do have the long arms in the rear, but not in the front. Most of the suspension settings are from the ever popular Mike Gee setup. Montec Racer body mounted forward, and a small 60' * 40' black carpet track.

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2019 IIC seemed to have a lack of Awesomatix drivers this year and drivers overall. What’s the deal with the lack of Awesomatix drivers?
Awesomatix did well in some of the lower classes. They dominated USGT and did well in 21.5 Stock Touring. A couple of Awesomatix drivers from Arizona (Dave Zorn and Jonathan Lee) help carry the banner.
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Indoor carpet season has begun and it time for racing! So Friday night, first time driving an rc car since February, car seemed good, but was over steering mid corner when getting on the throttle. This is pretty much a problem that I have always had. What are some setup changes that can help reduce the effect? I don't mean the rear breaks traction, but the front keeps turning just a touch too much. Enough to cause a wobble in my line, losing me time. I've got a futaba sr servo without a servo saver running in sr mode, so I think the steering electronics are good. I figure I could add a little more front droop, which could have the effect of making the car push a touch when getting on the throttle. Anything else? This is stock 21.5 racing with the xah evo, non mid motor, I do have the long arms in the rear, but not in the front. Most of the suspension settings are from the ever popular Mike Gee setup. Montec Racer body mounted forward, and a small 60' * 40' black carpet track.

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I think that setup has a lot of rotation, which is generally good for black carpet as when the grip gets high cars get stuck in the mud. You could stiffen the rear some which will reduce rotation on exit, or shorten the wheelbase some. Also make sure you have enough front glue. That will depend on tires, but generally I wouldn’t run less than 58.5mm front
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I think that setup has a lot of rotation, which is generally good for black carpet as when the grip gets high cars get stuck in the mud. You could stiffen the rear some which will reduce rotation on exit, or shorten the wheelbase some. Also make sure you have enough front glue. That will depend on tires, but generally I wouldn’t run less than 58.5mm front
Jaco blue 58.5 in the front and 57.5 in the rear. So if I understand you correctly, I want the rear of the car to roll less, allowing it to drive the car through the corner more? Setup is such a foreign language to me.
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Jaco blue 58.5 in the front and 57.5 in the rear. So if I understand you correctly, I want the rear of the car to roll less, allowing it to drive the car through the corner more? Setup is such a foreign language to me.
For jacos I would start with 59 front and none on the rears. I think just doing that would likely be all you need.

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For jacos I would start with 59 front and none on the rears. I think just doing that would likely be all you need.

Thanks Mike. Another question... When running Gravity type C, what setup changes do you generally make from Jaco's?
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Thanks Mike. Another question... When running Gravity type C, what setup changes do you generally make from Jaco's?
More or less just a bit less glue on the fronts (58.5). Maybe a tick more rear droop with gravity.
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I took a quick look at the live RC. The IIC was a bit of a down turn. They only had a few heats of mod and 17.5, and X-Ray sent there drivers.
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I have searched this thread but couldn't find any definitive information on the chassis flex settings on the A800X. What effect does stiffening the centre brace with more screws have? I currently have the centre 2 screwed in with no washers. This worked really well on Grey carpet but last weekend I ran on black carpet for the first time and the car was not as planted. I wondered if playing with flex was the answer as the grip has increased. On grey carpet the rear felt like it would brake away but no matter how hard I accelerated out of the corners it just hung on. On black carpet it felt much less stable and seemed to understeer on entry and oversteer on exit with the same settings. I've attached the setup I was running.

Also the motor mount screws, is it similar to the T4 in that screws in the rear provides better rear grip and screws in the front provides more steering? Is there a minimum number of screws recommended or one that must not be removed?
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Originally Posted by dvaid852456 View Post
I have searched this thread but couldn't find any definitive information on the chassis flex settings on the A800X. What effect does stiffening the centre brace with more screws have? I currently have the centre 2 screwed in with no washers. This worked really well on Grey carpet but last weekend I ran on black carpet for the first time and the car was not as planted. I wondered if playing with flex was the answer as the grip has increased. On grey carpet the rear felt like it would brake away but no matter how hard I accelerated out of the corners it just hung on. On black carpet it felt much less stable and seemed to understeer on entry and oversteer on exit with the same settings. I've attached the setup I was running.

Also the motor mount screws, is it similar to the T4 in that screws in the rear provides better rear grip and screws in the front provides more steering? Is there a minimum number of screws recommended or one that must not be removed?
Quick things to try. Add .5mm shims between the chassis and center brace and add more droop to the front and rear. This will allow the car to roll more, it will be lazier but may get some traction. For a good overall setup for stock motor on black carpet, look at Mike Gee's setups, but you may need the xah chassis, or Mike may be able to help dial you in with the chassis you have.

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I took a quick look at the live RC. The IIC was a bit of a down turn. They only had a few heats of mod and 17.5, and X-Ray sent there drivers.
Vegas has been running 90% + occupancy recently which made it tough for Scotty and IIC to get a reasonable rate in a convention space. 702RCRaceway is an awesome track but only has so much pit space to go around. Home track and AWX owner so I was pretty bummed to not see the AWX guys make it out. I like that it's at 702RC but hopefully next year they can work something out with with pit space etc. There's gotta be something to be said about rolling out of bed with a hangover, half buzzed and cocked then walking downstairs straight to the track with a mich ultra in hand. That's likely a big appeal with IIC in the past.
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Vegas has been running 90% + occupancy recently which made it tough for Scotty and IIC to get a reasonable rate in a convention space. 702RCRaceway is an awesome track but only has so much pit space to go around. Home track and AWX owner so I was pretty bummed to not see the AWX guys make it out. I like that it's at 702RC but hopefully next year they can work something out with with pit space etc. There's gotta be something to be said about rolling out of bed with a hangover, half buzzed and cocked then walking downstairs straight to the track with a mich ultra in hand. That's likely a big appeal with IIC in the past.
There was a good showing of Awesomatix cars out there just no team drivers . I ran AWX Cars in 21.5 stock and 2 of the 7 cars in FWD were AWX .
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Hmm, wonder what else is new in the kit....!
Anymore info on this??? Specifically when in November, and how much? Also kind of curious if the new pss will be part of the kit and if the Aluminum versions will come with soft springs. I have been contemplating buying the mid motor conversion, but may hold out for whole kit.
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