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New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Im coming from a TC7.1 to AMX platform and im struggling to understand gF/mm. Is there a chart or conversion table that will show gF/mm to lets say an Xray 2.6 or an Associated Blue spring?

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Ax settings refer to the actual wheel rate not the spring itself.
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Im coming from a TC7.1 to AMX platform and im struggling to understand gF/mm. Is there a chart or conversion table that will show gF/mm to lets say an Xray 2.6 or an Associated Blue spring?

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There is not really any point to compare spring rates vs other cars.. generally the shock setup on an awesomatix feels very damped versus traditional shock cars, they feel like pogo sticks compared to an awesomatix. You just need to compare settings vs other awesomatix setups
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Well, looks like I fail reading comprehension again! I have two Mid Motor A800's and on both I left the AT67 washer in place BETWEEN the two belts on the drive pulley. I was looking at the Mid Motor instructions tonight and just did notice that it says to move this washer to the far left of both belts. Why is this? Car seemed fine with the washer between the belts, but I went ahead and moved it to the far left on both cars. Why not just take the washer out?

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Your better than me lol I didnít read them and did the exact same thing . Been running them that way for a yr Iíll have to look at them again and see what difference it makes I would have thought it would have needed to be between the belts as well . But I did notice the new pully just released donít even have the spacer
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Your better than me lol I didnít read them and did the exact same thing . Been running them that way for a yr Iíll have to look at them again and see what difference it makes I would have thought it would have needed to be between the belts as well . But I did notice the new pully just released donít even have the spacer
I'm sure Oleg will answer the question, but the only thing I can imagine is that it was done to center the belts better. But in my case it moved the front belt over to the edge of the front driven pulley. They were centered better before I moved the washer.
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Well, looks like I fail reading comprehension again! I have two Mid Motor A800's and on both I left the AT67 washer in place BETWEEN the two belts on the drive pulley. I was looking at the Mid Motor instructions tonight and just did notice that it says to move this washer to the far left of both belts. Why is this? Car seemed fine with the washer between the belts, but I went ahead and moved it to the far left on both cars. Why not just take the washer out?
There are two places where the belts have an increased probability to rub others parts of the MM A800 car:
1. AM24-8 servo mount. AT67 on left side of pulley helps agains this.
2. Rear right long arm. AT67 on right side of center pulley helps against this. Note that the normal (not LA) rear arms don't have this issue.

I recommend to use AT67 on right side of our old center pulley for MM car with long rear arms.

New center pulley was designed to provide more gap between rear right arm and rear belt without AT67 using.
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I got my first AMX car and I built this to the absolute T of the manual. Everything went together as expected. Im having an issue with my damper build for the rear. They went together smooth, i have the ride height screw backed all the way out and the lowest ride height I can get is 5.8mm Am I missing something? For the record they are built SRS1, 40wt oil and standard springs. I should also mention this is for a FWD car.

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I got my first AMX car and I built this to the absolute T of the manual. Everything went together as expected. Im having an issue with my damper build for the rear. They went together smooth, i have the ride height screw backed all the way out and the lowest ride height I can get is 5.8mm Am I missing something? For the record they are built SRS1, 40wt oil and standard springs. I should also mention this is for a FWD car.

Thanks for any help you can offer.
Can you provide pictures? So we can see the issue.
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I could, but all it would be is me showing the car wirh the ride hwight screw all the way back out and a 5.8mm ride height. What specifically do you need to see? Id be happy to supply pics
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I could, but all it would be is me showing the car wirh the ride hwight screw all the way back out and a 5.8mm ride height. What specifically do you need to see? Id be happy to supply pics
By chance is this a VTA car. Sometimes those tall tires can cause problems of getting the car low enough. If not, I can't imagine what the problem is. What blocks are you running for the ride height screws, probably the P09X? Make sure the P09X block is seated all the way into the AM17XL/R damper holder. Also make sure your spring is pushed all the way down over the pin at the end. I'm betting the P09X plastic block is not seated all the way, you may have to trim it a little with an Xacto knife.
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I got my first AMX car and I built this to the absolute T of the manual. Everything went together as expected. Im having an issue with my damper build for the rear. They went together smooth, i have the ride height screw backed all the way out and the lowest ride height I can get is 5.8mm Am I missing something? For the record they are built SRS1, 40wt oil and standard springs. I should also mention this is for a FWD car.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Please note that FX car needs softer rear suspension settings. On FX car SRS II provides better range for standard SPR01 rear springs. SRS I is better for soft SPR01S rear springs.

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I got my first AMX car and I built this to the absolute T of the manual. Everything went together as expected. Im having an issue with my damper build for the rear. They went together smooth, i have the ride height screw backed all the way out and the lowest ride height I can get is 5.8mm Am I missing something? For the record they are built SRS1, 40wt oil and standard springs. I should also mention this is for a FWD car.

Thanks for any help you can offer.
i had the same issue with my fwd also when using the usgt style threaded tires . What I did was made the po9 thinner by .5mm also I shortened the short screw (Srs I think ) that .5mm allowed me to get rear down to 4mm .
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like to note I used the po9 not the po9x you could remove the p09x outer holes if you donít have any standard p09 parts . I also used the included standard springs with the type2 orientation
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By chance is this a VTA car. Sometimes those tall tires can cause problems of getting the car low enough. If not, I can't imagine what the problem is. What blocks are you running for the ride height screws, probably the P09X? Make sure the P09X block is seated all the way into the AM17XL/R damper holder. Also make sure your spring is pushed all the way down over the pin at the end. I'm betting the P09X plastic block is not seated all the way, you may have to trim it a little with an Xacto knife.
This is not a VTA car its my FWD car. Heres what is odd, all I was doimg was changing the shock oil in both the front and rear dampers. The fronts are absolutely fine. Ill double check what you suggested,but if they worked fine before Im completely confused why its different now. I forgot to mention this in the original post, sorry about that.
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Also, if I trim the P09X, do trim the top or bottom

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Please note that FX car needs softer rear suspension settings. On FX car SRS II provides better range for standard SPR01 rear springs. SRS I is better for soft SPR01S rear springs.
I apologize for some incorrect info.... I do indeed have the soft springs in the rear and the standard springs up front. Sorry for the confusion I put out there.

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i had the same issue with my fwd also when using the usgt style threaded tires . What I did was made the po9 thinner by .5mm also I shortened the short screw (Srs I think ) that .5mm allowed me to get rear down to 4mm .
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like to note I used the po9 not the po9x you could remove the p09x outer holes if you donít have any standard p09 parts . I also used the included standard springs with the type2 orientation
The P09X was not seeded all the way in. Which is odd, but whatever..... Probably solved. I dont like to over tighten screws into soft plastic, but i gave the spring rate screw a little extra (but ever so gentle) twist and I felt a little "pop/click" and I thought "crap Ibstripped it" But, that must have been the P09X settling in.

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