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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 03-14-2019, 10:58 PM
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A shorty is not good for spec racing. The capacity is too low resulting in faster voltage drops. Itís not as crucial in mod due to the motor and esc combo being so much faster.

A lot of people are starting to run ulcg packs in 17.5 with capacity from 5200 to 6000 with great success.
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You can use a 5200-5500shorty pack.. So no
difference from ulcg...
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Originally Posted by Sam Isaacs View Post
I posted a quick chassis focus of the A800MMCX I used this past weekend at ProLevel RC for the 2019 Carpet Nats. Let me know if you have any questions! The full setup is on the Awesomatix USA google drive as well as PetitRC.

https://imgur.com/gallery/0XFt13D
Are those 4.9mm ball studs and xray ball cups? Tks
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Originally Posted by RBLove View Post


A shorty is not good for spec racing. The capacity is too low resulting in faster voltage drops. It’s not as crucial in mod due to the motor and esc combo being so much faster.


A lot of people are starting to run ulcg packs in 17.5 with capacity from 5200 to 6000 with great success.
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You can use a 5200-5500shorty pack.. So no
difference from ulcg...
I would agree with Rob on this one, the 4000 shorty style battery have (for all intents and purposes) a terrible voltage curve, which is not a problem in mod as you have the ability to use boost and turbo. A few stock/SS TC drivers and they found pretty significant fall off even before 5 minutes with ULCG shorty (18.5mm height) packs, despite working great for the first 2-3 minutes of the run. I would suggest a 5300 or 6K for Stock or SS TC to prevent this kind of fall off..

The 4000 style shorty is great for modified racing and should work for 5 minute races on close to every indoor track (and some tracks, 6 minutes will be fine). This provides the lowest combination CG when combined with Awesomatix BW52 holders (Still lower than a 5100 etx ULCG standard pack).

Kyle ran R1 6000mah batteries in SS TC this past weekened (I think 22.5mm in height). Several other drivers ran ULCG packs, like EA's new 5200 SR pack.

Originally Posted by TurboDrifter View Post
Any downsides to using a shorty pack for 17.5?
The issue is you would need a 22.5mm or 25mm shorty to run strong the entire run...and this would largely defeat the purpose of the lower CG 18.5mm pack. At this point, it would make more sense to use a LCG or ULCG standard pack, in my opinion.

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Are those 4.9mm ball studs and xray ball cups? Tks

Correct, Avid titanium ball studs and Xray cups. Also Avid Aura ceramic bearings.
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Do the Avid aura bearings still need to be blasted or worked with to get them absolutely free or are they good to straight install?
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Do the Avid aura bearings still need to be blasted or worked with to get them absolutely free or are they good to straight install?
Personally, I just install them, maybe with a drop of oil. Others may have different methods of cleaning, etc.
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Noticed that there is trend in the Mid Motor Cars to use the AM19-2 vs the AM19-4X in the rear (usually in wide position on STD LA A800x) can any one shed some light this reasoning?
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+1 for a drop of oil in the Avoids, never failed me.
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Originally Posted by Kodey65 View Post
Noticed that there is trend in the Mid Motor Cars to use the AM19-2 vs the AM19-4X in the rear (usually in wide position on STD LA A800x) can any one shed some light this reasoning?
AM19-4X was good with normal arms.
New long arms ( LA set) need a bit longer top links. AM19-2 provide this.
I recommend to try LA without any AM19 with top balls installed directly on top deck and on bulkheads.
P22 bars should be use at thus for holding of spool and diff.
We have tried this only on ETS carpet and AM19-2 was better. But maybe at others conditions (on CRC carpet for example) "non-AM19" variant can be better.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich View Post
AM19-4X was good with normal arms.
New long arms ( LA set) need a bit longer top links. AM19-2 provide this.
I recommend to try LA without any AM19 with top balls installed directly on top deck and on bulkheads.
P22 bars should be use at thus for holding of spool and diff.
We have tried this only on ETS carpet and AM19-2 was better. But maybe at others conditions (on CRC carpet for example) "non-AM19" variant can be better.
Thanks Oleg for the informative response...What about running on asphalt?
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Originally Posted by Kodey65 View Post
Thanks Oleg for the informative response...What about running on asphalt?
Asphalt tracks and conditions are so different around the world. Still plenty of combinations for tests.
I think the extra long top links ( without AM19) in conjunction with LA set can be good at extra low grip and at extra high grip conditions.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich View Post
Asphalt tracks and conditions are so different around the world. Still plenty of combinations for tests.
I think the extra long top links ( without AM19) in conjunction with LA set can be good at extra low grip and at extra high grip conditions.
Really need to get some 38-40mm turnbuckles but I can run one of them longer while having enough thread in the plastic to hold up for a light crash... Maybe...

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Please pay attention on this tip to extend the reliability of ST38 and AM14LS on tracks with hard boards, which are common in US.
AT21 or AT21S on top will be an steering limiter in crash situations.
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Xtra long upper links was definitely better on low grip black rug with the LA MMCX. Thanks Oleg.
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Where can you find the latest A800X setups for black carpet? All the ones on Awesomatix are old and petit doesn’t really have many for black carpet. Looking for a good starting USGT setup for mile high
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Where can you find the latest A800X setups for black carpet? All the ones on Awesomatix are old and petit doesn’t really have many for black carpet. Looking for a good starting USGT setup for mile high
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https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/f...TNna293WExYcTg
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