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New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 03-12-2019, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hanulec View Post
if you wanted to buy 250 pcs / ea (500 / total) then they would be available. that is basically the minimum quantity needed for parts like this.

the changing grip levels (now lower) of latest black carpet tracks in the USA might warrant a purchase / manufacturing run. although this is TBD.
Iíll take three sets if you taking back orders!!!
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i posted on the awesomatix page on FB without much help. but i went to rebuild my dampers, which were fine before i just wanted to put thicker oil back in it and do more testing and tuning. well all but one damper is moving smoothly/uniformly. when i compress the chassis, one corner goes down faster than the other. i took it back apart, tested/felt the bearings and it felt fine. not knowing how the damper works internally i was wondering if there were any other issues i could look at.

i'm about to put in an order for bearings, just hoping to get some insight in case that doesnt solve it.
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Originally Posted by phatboislim View Post
i posted on the awesomatix page on FB without much help. but i went to rebuild my dampers, which were fine before i just wanted to put thicker oil back in it and do more testing and tuning. well all but one damper is moving smoothly/uniformly. when i compress the chassis, one corner goes down faster than the other. i took it back apart, tested/felt the bearings and it felt fine. not knowing how the damper works internally i was wondering if there were any other issues i could look at.

i'm about to put in an order for bearings, just hoping to get some insight in case that doesnt solve it.
It would be easier to help you if you offer us more info which exact damper you speak about, and if you use P45L / AT78+OR152S / P45R.
As i guess now, you may use D2.2 with P45R rubber balls and i would suspect you may have to much pressure in one of your dampers.
I recommend you to watch following video and check the steps of building.

If the bearings are fine as you say, it's not an issue.
Also make sure to not clamp the dampers to much into AM17XL/R. Otherwise you can deform the case of dampers and this result in hard/stiff moving dampers also.
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Installed the 7075 +8+9 arms tonight and will put them through their paces tomorrow. Edit: Upon removal of the 6061 arms, i noticed that they both were slightly bent in the same place. They were both slightly bent upwards right there the inside of the wheel would contact the arm in crashes. With that said, it looks like 6061 is inadequate and that 7075 is indeed necessary. Also, i have put a bigger bevel on the edges of these 7075 arms so that the wheels won't grab the arms.

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Originally Posted by hanulec View Post
if you wanted to buy 250 pcs / ea (500 / total) then they would be available. that is basically the minimum quantity needed for parts like this.

the changing grip levels (now lower) of latest black carpet tracks in the USA might warrant a purchase / manufacturing run. although this is TBD.

I donít think youíd have any problem at all selling that quantity.
The only reason more people donít run long arms in North America is that theyíre prone to breakage.
And the people that do run them and accept the failure rate for the performance benefits inevitably give the car a bad reputation as being to fragile.
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Originally Posted by DBM View Post
Installed the 7075 +8+9 arms tonight and will put them through their paces tomorrow. Edit: Upon removal of the 6061 arms, i noticed that they both were slightly bent in the same place. They were both slightly bent upwards right there the inside of the wheel would contact the arm in crashes. With that said, it looks like 6061 is inadequate and that 7075 is indeed necessary. Also, i have put a bigger bevel on the edges of these 7075 arms so that the wheels won't grab the arms.
Are you machining these on a consumer grade or high end shop machine? I have a shapeoko 3 I was going to machine some 7075 arms with. Just curious what machine and endmill you're using on the ball and inset for the damper mount link.
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I donít think youíd have any problem at all selling that quantity.
The only reason more people donít run long arms in North America is that theyíre prone to breakage.
And the people that do run them and accept the failure rate for the performance benefits inevitably give the car a bad reputation as being to fragile.
Trust me... I'm all about the alloy arm. They exist because of my push (plus the huge temps at 2014 pre-worlds warm up race in Kissimmee). It will be something to be discussed broader....

At the beginning of the carpet season I didn't see a need for LA. Now once the last 4-5 months happened we started to use LA on newer tracks that have lower grip (I don't know why.... And I'm tired of talking about it).
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Are you machining these on a consumer grade or high end shop machine? I have a shapeoko 3 I was going to machine some 7075 arms with. Just curious what machine and endmill you're using on the ball and inset for the damper mount link.
You'll have to ask the person on who is making them for me. I haven't converted my mill to cnc yet so my local club's president is making them for me on his cnc mill.
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I ran the heck out of my a800xah evo tonight in an effort to stress test the new 7075 arms and they survived numerous "board meetings." No popped off p03s or p07s either. The car just kept working running fast laps. I've asked Don if he could make me some more sets once more material arrives.
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Originally Posted by DBM View Post
You'll have to ask the person on who is making them for me. I haven't converted my mill to cnc yet so my local club's president is making them for me on his cnc mill.
Are you taking any orders? I would like to purchase three sets please!
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Originally Posted by DBM View Post
I ran the heck out of my a800xah evo tonight in an effort to stress test the new 7075 arms and they survived numerous "board meetings." No popped off p03s or p07s either. The car just kept working running fast laps. I've asked Don if he could make me some more sets once more material arrives.
Sign me up for four set too! I know lots of my buddies would also buy that at least another 4 sets
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Originally Posted by !Mad Max! View Post
It would be easier to help you if you offer us more info which exact damper you speak about, and if you use P45L / AT78+OR152S / P45R.
As i guess now, you may use D2.2 with P45R rubber balls and i would suspect you may have to much pressure in one of your dampers.
I recommend you to watch following video and check the steps of building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EERYX0db3E8&t=2s

If the bearings are fine as you say, it's not an issue.
Also make sure to not clamp the dampers to much into AM17XL/R. Otherwise you can deform the case of dampers and this result in hard/stiff moving dampers also.
MAYBE it was a clamp issue on the dampers, i took it apart one more time out of the holders and cleaned out the holders again and wiped off the dampers, ran it snug then maybe half a turn and it seems like it's compressing all at the same time now. IDK i've always done it that way but for some reason something was off. Thanks
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I posted a quick chassis focus of the A800MMCX I used this past weekend at ProLevel RC for the 2019 Carpet Nats. Let me know if you have any questions! The full setup is on the Awesomatix USA google drive as well as PetitRC.

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Any downsides to using a shorty pack for 17.5?
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Originally Posted by TurboDrifter View Post
Any downsides to using a shorty pack for 17.5?
A shorty is not good for spec racing. The capacity is too low resulting in faster voltage drops. Itís not as crucial in mod due to the motor and esc combo being so much faster.

A lot of people are starting to run ulcg packs in 17.5 with capacity from 5200 to 6000 with great success.
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