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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Originally Posted by john holmes 69
a long time ago when awesomatix first came out there was a tech note that had the mm of spacers you ran on the rear with each degree of shortened wheelbase . Does anyone have that chart and does it still hold true with optimum settings. Also is there something similar for the front suspension also .
we usually say that 1.75mm of shims should be added to the stack on the am23 for every 4 degrees of caster "added" to not have a major change in toe-in bump
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After many years with Xray I decided to go for something more exotic and damanding.

Im getting the new A800x evo and i’m looking for a list of tuning and spare parts to get with the chassis. Also some special tools needed?

Will be driving on ets carpet this winter and later on low to medium bite asfalt.

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the shock tool is really nice when rebuilding shocks but thats all you need in addition to the evo kit
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Originally Posted by Geberit
After many years with Xray I decided to go for something more exotic and damanding.

Im getting the new A800x evo and i’m looking for a list of tuning and spare parts to get with the chassis. Also some special tools needed?

Will be driving on ets carpet this winter and later on low to medium bite asfalt.

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Yeah the Caster Doodles and Multi-Tool from Helix are about all you need.
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when building the IFJ and IRJ, how much locktite are u guys putting into dogbones? i put a little extra to make sure the pin01 does not come out but feel like i have some bind now when i try to move the st116 forward and backwards.
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when building the IFJ and IRJ, how much locktite are u guys putting into dogbones? i put a little extra to make sure the pin01 does not come out but feel like i have some bind now when i try to move the st116 forward and backwards.
Built 10 kits over past 3 yrs and never once have I used lock tight anywhere on the car except the setscrew in the end of the dampiners
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Originally Posted by Speedychris22
when building the IFJ and IRJ, how much locktite are u guys putting into dogbones? i put a little extra to make sure the pin01 does not come out but feel like i have some bind now when i try to move the st116 forward and backwards.
I don't use any in the drive shafts
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when building the IFJ and IRJ, how much locktite are u guys putting into dogbones? i put a little extra to make sure the pin01 does not come out but feel like i have some bind now when i try to move the st116 forward and backwards.
Loctite for inner pins of IFJ and IRJ is the trick to hold the pins on place when the drives are out of the spool/diff outrives to prevent an accidental loss of pins. When the inner ends of dogbones with ST116 are inside of spool/diff outdrives the pins can't go out even without thread lock.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich
Loctite for inner pins of IFJ and IRJ is the trick to hold the pins on place when the drives are out of the spool/diff outrives to prevent an accidental loss of pins. When the inner ends of dogbones with ST116 are inside of spool/diff outdrives the pins can't go out even without thread lock.
thanks Oleg I will rebuild to eliminate the bind.

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thanks Oleg, should I rebuild to eliminate the bind?
Certainly the Loctite sould be fully inside the hole of ST113/ST114 and shouldn't affect on the ST116 free swing.

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Anyone know where I can buy the soft springs? Can’t find them in stock
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Anyone know where I can buy the soft springs? Can’t find them in stock
i think i have a spare set pm me your info i'll mail them you can have them
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What is the trick to put the front axle joints together? Using ST17 and P20? This step is about to make me throw the kit away
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What is the trick to put the front axle joints together? Using ST17 and P20? This step is about to make me throw the kit away
give me your location so I can stand by outside to catch it
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