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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


Below OLD Rear Motor Content ---
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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 06-14-2018, 11:22 AM
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From looking at the manual it seems that the diff housing itself and the pulley are separate parts. In this case it is quite easy to attach all kinds of pulleys to the diff. For all the other diffs I know you have to replace the housing to change the pulley which usually results in sealing problems as 3D-printed parts have a rougher surface.

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Originally Posted by AndreasHerold
Hi there,

does anyone have a diff with assembled bearings available and can measure the distance between the bearings? I am thinking about using this diff for my custom touring car.

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Please note that bearings are 10x6x3 mm.
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Thanks a lot - exactly the kind of information I was looking for!

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What’s everyone’s opinion on the stock plastic servo horn? If you don’t use them, which aluminum horn do go use to get the right geometry? Thanks.
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What’s everyone’s opinion on the stock plastic servo horn? If you don’t use them, which aluminum horn do go use to get the right geometry? Thanks.
If you race with hard barriers you'll want either a 17 mm long metal horn or x-ray extra stiff Servo saver
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If you race with hard barriers you'll want either a 17 mm long metal horn or x-ray extra stiff Servo saver
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Old 06-22-2018, 07:26 AM
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Sooo there's this: Mid motor conversion.
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just built an a800 car and my rear diff is leaking from both sides. cleaned it twice, is this a problem area or something i did ? are there option parts better suited to cure this ?
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just built an a800 car and my rear diff is leaking from both sides. cleaned it twice, is this a problem area or something i did ? are there option parts better suited to cure this ?
Where is it leaking from ?
The vent holes or the bearing area?
If its leaking from inside the outdrive you might habe forgot the small foam plugs in each outdrive shaft ...
I always seal one of them with shogoo ive thought about sealing both sides but never have .

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The inside of both outdrives are wet. I will take the outdrives off and inspect further tonight. But yes I remember putting both P46 inside of the ST31-1
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The inside of both outdrives are wet. I will take the outdrives off and inspect further tonight. But yes I remember putting both P46 inside of the ST31-1
The typical issues that will cause leaking:
1) over filling the diff - @ 1.2g of fluid is about the most I'd recommend adding
2) running fluid that is too thin causing excessive "diffing" and expansion of the fluid
3) deteriorated sponges
4) damaged 0-rings
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Originally Posted by Xpress
The typical issues that will cause leaking:
1) over filling the diff - @ 1.2g of fluid is about the most I'd recommend adding
2) running fluid that is too thin causing excessive "diffing" and expansion of the fluid
3) deteriorated sponges
4) damaged 0-rings
when you fill it to 1.2g, do you still use the flame to remove the overfill?
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Make sure the P 46 has not been pushed too far inside as this will let oil pass through
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when you fill it to 1.2g, do you still use the flame to remove the overfill?
I do not...
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Originally Posted by Xpress
The typical issues that will cause leaking:
1) over filling the diff - @ 1.2g of fluid is about the most I'd recommend adding
2) running fluid that is too thin causing excessive "diffing" and expansion of the fluid
3) deteriorated sponges
4) damaged 0-rings
when you say excessive diffing...you mean the back end coming out from the car?
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