Awesomatix A800/A800R
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#3076
Tech Initiate
Im using the normal cups and ball studs and have no problems with wandering setups. It would be very strange, if the turnbuckles moved during a normal run without heavy impact. I check setup after every race and most of the time nothing has changed. Any change is either due to a crash/heavy impact or wear. Also the original parts are very resilient. I haven't changed a ball stud or cup in over two years and there still is no play.
#3077
Tech Elite
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Im using the normal cups and ball studs and have no problems with wandering setups. It would be very strange, if the turnbuckles moved during a normal run without heavy impact. I check setup after every race and most of the time nothing has changed. Any change is either due to a crash/heavy impact or wear. Also the original parts are very resilient. I haven't changed a ball stud or cup in over two years and there still is no play.
#3079
Ball cups are soft, a few guys running xray cups and studs or Destiny studs and RPM cups to prevent them compressing on the turnbuckle during a hit. That and the servo mount being as smooth as it is, the servo can move slightly during a hit, maybe a half mm or so but plays havoc with your steering trims, and retrimming mid race is no fun!
Started running something similar to this and no more issues:
https://www.rcmaker.com.au/collectio...y-servo-washer
#3081
#3082
I will be doing some routine maintenance and changing out all my bearings in my cars and wanted to get opinion/results from others. I have typically used the standard Avid bearings which are very inexpensive. I've looked at the Acer ceramic bearings ($67) and Boca Bearings (~$150 or $400). That is a huge spread for the cost of a bearing kit.
I run an A700 in VTA and A800's in USGT and TC. I don't have any problem spending whatever is beneficial and will make a difference but I also don't want to waste money with no tangible return.
No matter what, I will at least try the Acer Ceramics because they are still relatively inexpensive. But, would I notice a measurable difference if I upgrade to the Boca ABEC1 or ABEC7 bearing kits?
I am a very clean and seasoned racer. I'm looking for any edge I can find in the spec classes. I take very good care of my car and have worked to make everything VERY free and my cars are already in the top 1-2 free spinning cars at the track.
I'd like to hear feedback from folks that KNOW from experience if the high dollar bearings are worth the money and if it would likely translate into a small measurable improvement in lap times.
I run an A700 in VTA and A800's in USGT and TC. I don't have any problem spending whatever is beneficial and will make a difference but I also don't want to waste money with no tangible return.
No matter what, I will at least try the Acer Ceramics because they are still relatively inexpensive. But, would I notice a measurable difference if I upgrade to the Boca ABEC1 or ABEC7 bearing kits?
I am a very clean and seasoned racer. I'm looking for any edge I can find in the spec classes. I take very good care of my car and have worked to make everything VERY free and my cars are already in the top 1-2 free spinning cars at the track.
I'd like to hear feedback from folks that KNOW from experience if the high dollar bearings are worth the money and if it would likely translate into a small measurable improvement in lap times.
Last edited by RollingChicane2; 02-18-2018 at 06:07 AM. Reason: Can't spell right today....
#3083
Hey,
I always like to use the std. Awesomatix B106RS bearings.
I tested also some different brands of bearings and also some ceramic ones.
For me the AVID Aura Driveline Bearing Kit is pretty good. I feelt some tiny bit more free spin of the Car with them.
But no any advantage for faster laptime on track compared to Awesomatix B106RS bearings.
Full Awesomatix bearing kit can be found here:
BBS-1 Drivetrain Ball Bearing Set A800/X ? AWESOMATIX
TIP: I put new bearings for 15 minutes into break cleaner bath. After this they should be free from Oil and grease. Now i put only 1 small drop of a good bearing oil into each single bearing. This is enough and will offer super free running.
Basically i do this every 2 weeks or before each race. Not much work, but big effect.
I always like to use the std. Awesomatix B106RS bearings.
I tested also some different brands of bearings and also some ceramic ones.
For me the AVID Aura Driveline Bearing Kit is pretty good. I feelt some tiny bit more free spin of the Car with them.
But no any advantage for faster laptime on track compared to Awesomatix B106RS bearings.
Full Awesomatix bearing kit can be found here:
BBS-1 Drivetrain Ball Bearing Set A800/X ? AWESOMATIX
TIP: I put new bearings for 15 minutes into break cleaner bath. After this they should be free from Oil and grease. Now i put only 1 small drop of a good bearing oil into each single bearing. This is enough and will offer super free running.
Basically i do this every 2 weeks or before each race. Not much work, but big effect.
#3084
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#3085
TIP: I put new bearings for 15 minutes into break cleaner bath. After this they should be free from Oil and grease. Now i put only 1 small drop of a good bearing oil into each single bearing. This is enough and will offer super free running.
Basically i do this every 2 weeks or before each race. Not much work, but big effect.
#3086
Does anyone have a bell crank steering setup you want to part ways with? If so, please PM me.
#3088
Tech Rookie
You should never use motor spray and especially not brake clearer on any RC bearing. Those products make cleaning a breeze but at a price because they are caustic and eat away the surface causing excessive pitting on the races. The best way to clean bearings is to use a citrus cleaner which you can usually find at home depot or even the grocery store and safe to have on your skin. It takes a bit more work but your bearings will thank you. There are several ways to do it, an ultra-sonic cleaner is the best to make a soak with but with our current Aura line having no seals you may pour the citrus cleaner into a bowl and put the bearing on a top shaft, diff outdrive, or idler pin so you can submerse it in the solution and lightly spin the bearing so any debris will work its way out. Once the bearing is smooth again, remove the residue left behind by the citrus cleaner by running water over them and then immediately dry them. We suggest using an air compressor to make sure no water is left but don't let the air compressor spin the bearing (very bad for the balls and races to be operated at such high RPM). Once dry, lubricate quickly to protect the bearings from humidity and so you don’t accidentally run them dry
#3089
Tech Rookie
That's straight from Avid
#3090