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New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 02-11-2018, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich View Post
Yes, we can.
Some guys don't want to wait us:
Donít you tease us. Lol
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich View Post
Yes, we can.
Some guys don't want to wait us:
That's cool ,but the front end look kinda too heavy ..
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It would also be illegal as the dampers need to be inside the body...
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Not for sure how it is interpreted but USVTA F1 rule 1.13 says that only the suspension pickup points need to be inside the body.

USVTA F1 Rule 1.15 says that no part of the chassis is to be visible outside of the body from above. It also says all horizontal parts of the chassis is to be inside the body.

So would the bracket the damper slides on be chassis part or suspension part?
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It would also be illegal as the dampers need to be inside the body...
We must take into account ETS rules where dampers are not allowed for front suspension on F1 cars.
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Very early 800 a bit tired so I gave it a refurb..
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Very early 800 a bit tired so I gave it a refurb..
What chassis plate is on that?
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Can AM77X3 be used on the A800 or does it require the use of AM78X? I've heard the AM78X are slightly taller than the A800 bulkheads. Is the AM77X3 also slightly higher than the A800 motor mount?
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Can AM77X3 be used on the A800 or does it require the use of AM78X? I've heard the AM78X are slightly taller than the A800 bulkheads. Is the AM77X3 also slightly higher than the A800 motor mount?
AM77X3 can be used on the A800 without restrictions.
All mounting holes and distance between the lower and top decks are same.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich View Post
AM77X3 can be used on the A800 without restrictions.
All mounting holes and distance between the lower and top decks are same.
Over here in the US with all hard walls and high traction we could use thicker 19-2 that way there stronger and need less shims to get our camber gain set and keep them from bending between the ball stud and the m3x6 screw.
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I was told AM78X1 was 0.5mm taller than the original A800 bulkheads.

Not sure on the advantage of going to AM77X3 from the std motor mount.
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Originally Posted by jlfx car audio View Post
Over here in the US with all hard walls and high traction we could use thicker 19-2 that way there stronger and need less shims to get our camber gain set and keep them from bending between the ball stud and the m3x6 screw.
I wonder what the next weak point would be though?

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I was told AM78X1 was 0.5mm taller than the original A800 bulkheads.

Not sure on the advantage of going to AM77X3 from the std motor mount.
It has a mount for the DL link on it and the rear portion was milled out .5mm so you can get more chassis flex when running just the front few screws.
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Originally Posted by iTz Nicholas72 View Post
I wonder what the next weak point would be though?
Slop in the ball cups maybe . or pop a ball cup off . both I can live with atleast I don't have to replace parts ..
I made a brace that worked pretty well but they crack as well but till they crack work great
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Ball cups are soft, a few guys running xray cups and studs or Destiny studs and RPM cups to prevent them compressing on the turnbuckle during a hit. That and the servo mount being as smooth as it is, the servo can move slightly during a hit, maybe a half mm or so but plays havoc with your steering trims, and retrimming mid race is no fun!
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Just made the switch to all arc ball studs and arc ball cups(virtually the same as X-ray but at a fraction of the cost). Luckily I had a two full sets of ball studs when running arc a few years back. 100% more consistent. Set up doesn't wander and car drives the same every lap. Highly recommended.
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