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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 01-23-2018, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaST
You shouldn't have to use xray anything on a kit that costs this much.
You don’t have to run them. If you want something cheaper but also very very good you can try the ARC ball studs and cups. Very smooth and I think they produce less slop when compared to Xray. Certainly cheaper.
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You don’t have to run them. If you want something cheaper but also very very good you can try the ARC ball studs and cups. Very smooth and I think they produce less slop when compared to Xray. Certainly cheaper.
I understand your point but my point is you shouldn't have to run anything different than stock for a kit that costs this much.
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Originally Posted by FloridaST
I understand your point but my point is you shouldn't have to run anything different than stock for a kit that costs this much.
The kit ball ends are fine until-
You pop them excessively (due to crashes) or it is very hot.. and the plastic appears to soften
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Originally Posted by FloridaST
I understand your point but my point is you shouldn't have to run anything different than stock for a kit that costs this much.
That's just the thing, you don't have to. The stock ones are functional and do the job. However, if you want higher reliability for tracks with hard barriers, you can replace them with stronger ones, but it's not obligatory. It's an option and the choice of the individual to get more reliability.

I can't think of a single touring car in the market that does not have optional parts available and that are often used on them. The Awesomatix line of cars is quite Possibly the most optioned Brand of cars in the market that probably require and have the least amount of aftermarket items available.
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Originally Posted by hanulec
The kit ball ends are fine until-
You pop them excessively (due to crashes) or it is very hot.. and the plastic appears to soften
Yep and that's when it's been an issue, track temps here in summer, outdoor asphalt are often in the 60-70 range (That's Celsius!)
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Yep and that's when it's been an issue, track temps here in summer, outdoor asphalt are often in the 60-70 range (That's Celsius!)
Are the Xray T4 and Awesomatix ball-studs the same size, or are people changing both?

Summer here in NZ is a bit like that, and with Nationals here in a few weeks, we'll bee seeing 60C+ tracks temps all weekend too.
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Xray is 4.9mm, Awesomatix is 4.8mm.

On my A700, I changed it to aftermarket titanium 4.9mm balls with X-ray ball connectors. Very solid after a year of racing.
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Are the Xray T4 and Awesomatix ball-studs the same size, or are people changing both?

Summer here in NZ is a bit like that, and with Nationals here in a few weeks, we'll bee seeing 60C+ tracks temps all weekend too.
You have to change both. Mainly change the areas that get a hit, for me it's outer steering rod ends.
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Hi
does it happen to you to find the lower ends of the bumper dirty from contact with the track?
The heights from the ground are correct ... I think it's due to braking on insertion ...
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Looking for a few items

Bell crank steering set
Aluminum arms
Aluminum chassis.

Or xa car.
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does it happen to you to find the lower ends of the bumper dirty from contact with the track?
The heights from the ground are correct ... I think it's due to braking on insertion ...
sounds like you have a heap of rear droop then. Maybe dial it back a tad
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Originally Posted by kevink123
Looking for a few items

Bell crank steering set
Aluminum arms
Aluminum chassis.

Or xa car.
Kevin, only place I see the arms is out of Europe. Still get them within a week possibly. The main shop, TQ and awesomatixusa are out of stock. I though you had the newer car?

https://www.t2shop.de/Awesomatix-C04...-Arm-LONG-1-pc

The main shop has the LS2 set.

http://shop.awesomatix.com/index.php?productID=1277

TQ has the XA chassis

https://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/prod...asp?p_id=12293
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Originally Posted by VegasHB
Kevin, only place I see the arms is out of Europe. Still get them within a week possibly. The main shop, TQ and awesomatixusa are out of stock. I though you had the newer car?

https://www.t2shop.de/Awesomatix-C04...-Arm-LONG-1-pc

The main shop has the LS2 set.

LS2 - Linear Steering Set ? AWESOMATIX

TQ has the XA chassis

https://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/prod...asp?p_id=12293
Those are the .5mm arms wanted the standard. I have a 800x so carbon arms. I was trying to get the bell crank BSSX I believe is the part number.
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Does someone know the diameter of the AT14 turnbuckles? length is what
I need to know... width would be fine also just for reference.

Can some recommend a alternative brand of turnbuckles for the 800X as well?

Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Ivan Dickson
Does someone know the diameter of the AT14 turnbuckles? length is what
I need to know... width would be fine also just for reference.

Can some recommend a alternative brand of turnbuckles for the 800X as well?

Thanks in advance.
Ivan, Alex bought the VBC brand at TQ the other day. or get the lunsford titanium turnbuckle at amain part #LNS1162. hope this helps
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