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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 04-24-2017, 10:47 PM
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Brent, thank you for the explanation. That sounds like a deadly tuning option to have I can't wait to play with that.

*Edit* I had to go in the garage to check out the car. Yup, it makes perfect sense. Thank you.

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I think 3mm is in the ballpark for rear bump toe in the wheelbase. With 0* caster I typically run 4.5mm shims, and for every 4*+/- you add/subtract 1.75mm of shims, so by that I would have said 2.75mm, so 3mm should be fine you can play with the shims and check how the toe changes under compression on the hudy gauges to get an idea of what you want to do
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Hi Rod,

Great job on the first weekend out! Where in the corner particularly do you need more steering? All around?
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Originally Posted by Sam Isaacs View Post
Hi Rod,

Great job on the first weekend out! Where in the corner particularly do you need more steering? All around?
Thanks Sam.

When I noted that the car has mild understeer, it was more of a warning to others who wanted to try the setup. I tend to prefer slightly pushy cars at the Tamiya track and I've got some room with bumping up the dual rate. If anything I could use a just a touch more on entry without loosing stability and balance. That'd help on the 180, inner sweeper, and getting into esses at this track. It could be something as simple as rear downtravel or front spring rate.

That being said, the A800x setup by Brandon and driven by Thad Garner looked phenomenal and is something I will probably try at the Reedy Race at some point.
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Good to hear. I would agree with Hanulec's suggestion of front dampening/spring increase to help prevent the car from falling over. More rear droop as you mentioned would help. Dropping your inner front camber links is a common change I make on asphalt to make the car more aggressive; you could also try less shims on the FF (front front) link than the RF link. Less ackermann shims could give it more turn in, too.

A 1.2 bar front is an option as well, which could help depending on traction levels.

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Oh man, then there's the whole reactive caster thing!

I agree on the Ackerman setting. I wanted to start with a safe setting and will go with 0.25-0.5 less when I rebuild the car (there's a bag of ceramic bearings on my workbench daring me to install in non-high stress areas). Will also readjust front damper/spring rates so there's room for adjustments. I don't like being maxed out in one direction.
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Oh man, then there's the whole reactive caster thing!
Oh--there is plenty still untried! Just incase you want to keep that in the back of your mind.
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Is the A800XA chassis recommend for asphalt or low- med carpet, thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by dawgmeat View Post
Is the A800XA chassis recommend for asphalt or low- med carpet, thanks in advance
Asphalt - a800x, a800xa
Carpet - a800xa, a800xah

The first model listed will be the easiest/most forgiving. The second models could work but are likely to have smaller setup windows, but they could reward you with some slight advantage.
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If they wanted to support the product they would
Tq only likes consignment... Vs buying inventory for themselves. Consignment is unnecessary when we can hardly keep product in stock
There must be a misunderstanding, I didn't ask the consignment.

I just asked if it's possible to get distributor account. if not, it's OK to get the dealer account from other distributors.

I sent a PM to Oleg regarding the dealer account.

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There must be a misunderstanding, I didn't ask the consignment.

I just asked if it's possible to get distributor account. if not, it's OK to get the dealer account from other distributors.

I sent a PM to Oleg regarding the dealer account.

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Awesomatix 1/2 in 21.5 Class at West Australian State Titles (Both A800)

My A800X was a pig, so became a parts doner for the weekend.

West Coast Model RC :: 2017 Aarcmcc Wa On Road State Titles :: Sportsman 21.5 Touring Triple A-Main Results :: LiveRC
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Originally Posted by nexxus View Post
Awesomatix 1/2 in 21.5 Class at West Australian State Titles (Both A800)

My A800X was a pig, so became a parts doner for the weekend.

West Coast Model RC :: 2017 Aarcmcc Wa On Road State Titles :: Sportsman 21.5 Touring Triple A-Main Results :: LiveRC
Why was it a pig? Didnt you TQ?
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I ran the A800, the A800X I gave up on after the practice Friday trying to get it right. Just very twitchy / unstable, even with the A800 hubs / set up on it. Going to rebuild it onto a spare new A800 CF deck I have see if that helps.
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is the gold CO1B-AL chassis not being produced anymore for the 800a?
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