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Old 11-24-2022, 04:59 AM
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If this is the case then I think IMO they kind of dropped the ball on the design. Unscrewing the ball stud completely off then adding or removing a shim, then put everything back together, put the car back in the setup station, then do it all over again if that shim isnt enough just isnt ideal. Also you are at the mercy of how thick or thin of a shim you have available to make this adjustment, and even then its still a stepped adjustment.

Ideally I think they just simply screw the ball stud in or out for both camber and caster adjustment. for fast and easy adjustments
Yeah, but normaly they will know, how many shim you need for specific values. f.E. let say the Setting we sie is 4° Caster, 2° Camber. so with adding .5mm shim on the front and removing 0.5mm on the over side, you stay on 2° Camber but now with 5° Caster... Values may vary but you get what I mean... and I hope there will be a Table for this.

The benefit of this System is, you dont need a Setup system, because it canīt change threw crashes
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Old 11-24-2022, 10:54 AM
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I like what I see with this design. However, there is one key piece missing. Ruddog needs to hire a really fast driver to race it. If they want to have absolutely zero sales, then I am available.
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Originally Posted by ChrisP View Post
Anxious to see the manual as well...There are some very cool concepts and ideas, but there are a lot of details shown in the pictures that aren't necessarily clear, and some items that look potentially frustrating (or possibly even troubling?)
https://site.petitrc.com/reglages/ir...ibextid=Zxz2cZ
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Old 11-24-2022, 05:11 PM
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Thanks, but the link looks to be just a placeholder
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Old 11-24-2022, 06:57 PM
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How is the spring adjusted to feel linear or progressive?
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Old 11-24-2022, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rccartips View Post
How is the spring adjusted to feel linear or progressive?
This is what I think is happening, not positive until I either see the car in person or read the manual. There is a pushrod that hooks from the lower portion of the upright to a lever that is mounted to the torsion bar. As the suspension compresses, the push road pushes the lever arm which winds up the torsion bar. When the angle between the push rod and the lever arm is 90 degrees, you have the most mechanical advantage. You can adjust where this angle starts in order to make a rising or falling wheel rate. Now as far as linear, that's not going to happen with this type of suspension design.

This will give you an idea of what I'm talking about. Only difference is that there is a torsion bar spring attached to the centerline of the rocker arm in the IRIS design. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSIhxlkCQyM
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Old 11-25-2022, 04:56 AM
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Currently 4 cars running the ETS race in Germany, it’s just practice now.

https://www.ets.racing
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Very interested to see the manual
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https://site.petitrc.com/reglages/ir...ibextid=Zxz2cZ
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the more i look at the pictures the more questions i have.
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Originally Posted by WayneKerr View Post
the more i look at the pictures the more questions i have.
Wondering how the rotary dampers work.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gwhiz View Post
it looks to be a singe vane rotary damper. Awesomatix uses 4 vanes or no vanes...

How fascinating... no doubt someone will soon make an iris shock stand in no time at all.
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by foampervert View Post
it looks to be a singe vane rotary damper. Awesomatix uses 4 vanes or no vanes...

How fascinating... no doubt someone will soon make an iris shock stand in no time at all.
Agreed.
Lots of suspense and intrigue.
We need better pictures.
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Interesting. Horizon Hobby have a patent for something pretty similar:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9182004
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