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Old 05-17-2019, 05:31 PM
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What can be done to bring WGT back to life . I liked my pan cars from the 90s , I like F1 now . I don't really know why pan cars are not more popular. They are cheaper then TC cars .
Being someone who would like to race somthing different then just another TC chassis maybe WGT need to change to be more popular, Maybe make them 2 cell 25.5 or 21.5 ,it would have a feel more like the 27 turn motor, have bodies different then USGT more like LM1 - Prototype bodies . maybe allow foam and rubber tire cars if there are not enough to split a class up,
I live in Illinois and within the last year and a half almost all our tracks have closed ( onroad and offroad) so really all I have to do anymore is think about racing,
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lone Drifter
What can be done to bring WGT back to life . I liked my pan cars from the 90s , I like F1 now . I don't really know why pan cars are not more popular. They are cheaper then TC cars .*snip*
I live in Illinois and within the last year and a half almost all our tracks have closed ( onroad and offroad) so really all I have to do anymore is think about racing,
Faster. Faster is the answer. Last I heard, WGT-R is mostly a "floor it, and steer" class. That's... not good. 2s means needing to adjust at least my GenX 10 r/t doesn't clear a normal 2s battery. Honestly, I'd prefer 2s. oh well.

So... how do we make it more exciting? Braking should be a necessity.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:31 PM
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Wgtr is not a floor it and steer class braking is needed if that's the way u drive or hit your marks and let off and roll through the corners. Wgtr seems to be picking up steam here on the east coast.
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:03 AM
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My car is currently very good right now and has been for some time. What I will tell you is I run at a track that follows the Can Am motor rules so straight away speed advantage isn't there. What is there is hard work on car setup and intense concentration in driving and yes on the indoor carpet tracks you need to know how to brake and hit the marks.
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Old 05-19-2019, 07:58 AM
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Well its not so much top speed with a 2 cell ,Its acceleration. Modern RC F1 and WGT chassis are not very similar because there powerplants completely different.(like a P51 with a RR Merlin VS, Allison Engine)

I prefer 2wd to 4wd but it seems that everything is geared to TC cars . I love 2wd buggy and dislike 4wd ( wheeler) Id look to WGT-F but that is really dead.
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Old 05-19-2019, 08:16 AM
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I think that the current WGT-R power level (1S/17.5) is great. Being successful in this class requires that you learn how to manage your momentum with both car setup and driving style. At the end of the day, this skill seems to be what ultimately separates the good from the great at the front of most kinds of races.

The lower power level also seems to make it easier for folks with mixed skill levels to run together. The better drivers can still separate themselves, but the gaps are smaller and at lower on track speeds, passing is less eventful.

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Old 05-20-2019, 03:58 PM
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This vaguely bothers me. Pan cars should be ~really fast~, spooky quick in corners and running like a scalded cat. F1 is nutered with 25.5 motors, narrow tracks, high CG's, and ironically, not a lot of downforce. WGT-R is running around with 1s 17.5. Classes that should be shockingly quick, just aren't.

Someone should be the "fast" 1/10 scale pan car class. Who's it gonna be? (The answer might be pro/10 but nobody is supporting that ruleset anymore.)

This is all without seeing WGT-R put on a serious performance for almost a year.

So... who's got active racers in WGT-R? How many cars week to week?
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:23 PM
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The 1S pack is not helping participation: not many folks will buy a pack to use in only one class...Switching to 2S might be best......
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During winter racing season we have at least 12-16 WGTR cars each week this class is a shut up and drive class due to the rubber tires funny thing is just about everyone's car is set up different and were all with in 2tenths on fast lap with the can am rules. Not sure why people can't except things the way they are and just drive that's what's wrong with on road is everyone wants to cry about the classes and rules were supposed to be enjoying this hobby not bitching about it find a class that appeals to u and have fun WGTR is a great class for every level of driver let's leave it alone.
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Old 05-20-2019, 07:13 PM
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One of my favorite classes is WGT-R. We had WGT and it died. We ran 1 cell and 17.5. The tires helped kill the class. Now with WGT-R the tire problem has been fixed (buy one set and your good for a very long time on carpet). Yes it's slower but you have to set-up car up and Drive it. Not a fan of the Can-Am motors- I like the different motor companies having a shot. Funny thing is that Down here in Florida 1/12th was dead except near the Birds. The GT12 class now races every week and more drivers are coming to this class. Yes it's slower than the other two 1/12th classes but racers are having FUN and want to join the fun. Our WGT-R class died two months ago but it's coming back once again. Nobody is forcing you to race this class You can make your own class where you race everyone has that option.
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Old 05-20-2019, 07:25 PM
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I'm not saying that there is only one way to do pan cars , Im just trying to have a class more like the Original Class that there was in the late 80 - 2000 .
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The problem with that is the cost of foams one run and done tires unless your getting tires given to u who can afford that. I wish I could have run the original WGT class everyone I've talked to said it was great but truing tires and tire cost killed it.
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Correct answer. Tires killed it. Now we have a class where tires are not the factor. Must be something to Rubber tires as Oval now has two classes with Rubber tires?
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Old 05-20-2019, 09:32 PM
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Rubber tires last along time that's prolly why the gt12 class is becoming so popular the big foams last for weeks before u have to replace them and then u can use them for stock 12 racing.
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WGTR is perfect the way it is. Canam seems fine in it as well. Perfect fun class.

I'd raise the minimum body weight up a little bit more, that's about it. For less parity between bodies, especially since the coolest scale bodies are heavier than the fastest.

Foams and 2s speeds? Some of ya'll need to run 1/12th Canam stock for that. 1s batteries aren't holding any class back. Every racer here, buys a few of them every year. Get over it. Quit trying to reinvent the wheel, and come back to 1/12th scale.

Running foams in WGT makes the bodies completely unscale. Tiny little tires are great for 1/12th scale IMSA bodies, but not scale GT3-ish bodies.
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