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Old 04-17-2019, 10:16 AM
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For a lot of tracks, 13.5 would be too fast for some drivers don't you think?
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dumper
For a lot of tracks, 13.5 would be too fast for some drivers don't you think?
Kind of takes away from the drivers looking to get started also. I always recommended this as a first timers class as you well know.
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:24 AM
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I donít think 2s makes sense at all. Tracks could play with motors if they wanted to, but I really like the spec idea of canam.

Maybe that reedy locked timing 13.5?
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by XSRCdesign


we actually tried this, it seemed slower
Wow, that's interesting. I know I love this setup in my F1 car, and it's just as heavy if not heavier than my GTR car, and it's faster. May have to try this sometime over the summer.

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For a lot of tracks, 13.5 would be too fast for some drivers don't you think?
Dumper, I actually tried this before can am came along. I spent the better part of the day trying different things, but the end result was the same. All it wanted to do is spin the tires right off the carpet. Trying a 13.5 can am motor may provide a different result.
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:30 AM
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Maybe on a practice night Iíll try my canam TC motor and this Reedy fixed timing motor I have, see what happens.
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I have run 13.5, and it is totally manageable for me. However, for some people at some tracks it will not be. At a track like IIC in Vegas, or Canadian Nats, where the track is huge, 13.5 isn't that big of a deal. But when you get on a medium sized track or small track, then 13.5 becomes too fast.

A couple of years ago, we mentioned doing 13.5 on tracks 80 foot and longer and 17.5 on tracks 79 feet and shorter (or track owner discretion). There were a few people that freaked out. Apparently owning 2 motors is too much for some.

The bottom line is, we have to have rules that work everywhere. Most tracks are not the size of IIC (120x60) or Canadian Nats (110x60). Having run at a lot of different tracks, 17.5 works.

For a class where "17.5 is too slow" in GTR, there seems to be an awful lot of wrecking. 13.5 will not make this better.

If people can voice their opinion in a reasonable manner then we are certainly open to listening.
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Originally Posted by dumper
I have run 13.5, and it is totally manageable for me. However, for some people at some tracks it will not be. At a track like IIC in Vegas, or Canadian Nats, where the track is huge, 13.5 isn't that big of a deal. But when you get on a medium sized track or small track, then 13.5 becomes too fast.

A couple of years ago, we mentioned doing 13.5 on tracks 80 foot and longer and 17.5 on tracks 79 feet and shorter (or track owner discretion). There were a few people that freaked out. Apparently owning 2 motors is too much for some.

The bottom line is, we have to have rules that work everywhere. Most tracks are not the size of IIC (120x60) or Canadian Nats (110x60). Having run at a lot of different tracks, 17.5 works.

For a class where "17.5 is too slow" in GTR, there seems to be an awful lot of wrecking. 13.5 will not make this better.

If people can voice their opinion in a reasonable manner then we are certainly open to listening.
Iíve always assumed there was testing that went into this before just releasing a set of rules.

I think its in peopleís nature to be curious though.

It it is weird though, I love the way this class handles, and it is easy to drive. But I can se how some get bored with it and move on too. As is, I think itís a great class to get someone back in. And canam really makes for some crazy good racing up at the upper level (weíre talking no mistakes kind of driving) but that can also be frustrating, not being able to tap at all is like a whole different level of driving.
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Originally Posted by Dan
2s lipo please!
No.
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Though not specifically legal, are the tire for WGT-R and F1, functionally the same? I just want to know before I start building my kit, and I don't have the WGT-R tires yet.
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Originally Posted by dumper
I have run 13.5, and it is totally manageable for me. However, for some people at some tracks it will not be. At a track like IIC in Vegas, or Canadian Nats, where the track is huge, 13.5 isn't that big of a deal. But when you get on a medium sized track or small track, then 13.5 becomes too fast.

A couple of years ago, we mentioned doing 13.5 on tracks 80 foot and longer and 17.5 on tracks 79 feet and shorter (or track owner discretion). There were a few people that freaked out. Apparently owning 2 motors is too much for some.

The bottom line is, we have to have rules that work everywhere. Most tracks are not the size of IIC (120x60) or Canadian Nats (110x60). Having run at a lot of different tracks, 17.5 works.

For a class where "17.5 is too slow" in GTR, there seems to be an awful lot of wrecking. 13.5 will not make this better.

If people can voice their opinion in a reasonable manner then we are certainly open to listening.
good to see the boys at CRC willing to listen to other opinions and ideas unlike hanulec and his can-am rules this is what we need is more like Dumper and the CRC crew that's willing to listen and consider others suggestions I applaud you for this way to go CRC.
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I don't know why these wouldn't be great with the same power setup as F-1? 25.5 and 2s --- would be smooth and fast.
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Originally Posted by Nerobro
Though not specifically legal, are the tire for WGT-R and F1, functionally the same? I just want to know before I start building my kit, and I don't have the WGT-R tires yet.
just different rims
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Old 04-17-2019, 08:23 PM
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No 2s. That would mean new motors, esc and batteries, also might need to redesign the car as well. Would be the end of gtr for me.
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Old 04-18-2019, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by redmonster27
good to see the boys at CRC willing to listen to other opinions and ideas unlike hanulec and his can-am rules this is what we need is more like Dumper and the CRC crew that's willing to listen and consider others suggestions I applaud you for this way to go CRC.
I second this. The CRC Team are always looking at ways to improve racing and make it even better. Keep up the good work Dumper!!!
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:01 PM
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Just run f1 for 2s action. I don't understand the draw for 2s systems. Modern 1s esc's work fine now. Don't forget that the rules allow f1 cars to be 1mm lower than wgtr. A taller 2s battery might not be a good idea.

13.5 sounds fun though.
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