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Old 12-20-2005, 03:39 PM   #196
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Matt.........you coming
nope, no carpet nats for me. I'm still undecided on attending the outdoor Nats at Speedworld or going to the Reedy race.
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nope, no carpet nats for me. I'm still undecided on attending the outdoor Nats at Speedworld or going to the Reedy race.
I'll buy you a burger if you come to the SWR nats.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:55 PM   #198
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I always thought ROAR rules required a minimum of 10' lanes I will have to read my 2005-2006 rule book

I've raced in Stockton before and I can assure you it will be first class all the way!!!! Keep up the great work guys!!!
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I dont think that lane rule is really enforced. I know for a fact the lanes at hobbychamber werent all over 8'.
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:19 PM   #200
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Carpet is 8 feet:


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Old 12-20-2005, 04:27 PM   #201
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I like that 4 cell 12th scale 6 foot mininum but I have run tighter. 6.4 sec mod laps


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Thanks harsh....I don't think I ever got my rule book anyway...LOL
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I'll buy you a burger if you come to the SWR nats.
If by "burger" you mean "tires and entry fee" then I'll surely come.
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:50 PM   #204
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I agree with Ray that The Gate put on an excellent nationals in 2004. The Gate always has great layouts, the layout from the Halloween race this year looked awesome. Technical, and not too wide or narrow.

I dont understand what people want when they talk about passing room. 6' lanes or 12' foot lanes, the fast line will always be in the same place and it only takes a couple of inches to make a clean pass.
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Excellent point JR,

Part of the reason for going to other tracks is to see how other people race and learn to race that way, making yourself a better driver and a better wrencher. I've seen some strange stuff over the years, I'm sure Bill will agree as we have both raced in Scotland and it's just funky up there, but still enjoyable. The Layout at Stockton this weekend seemed to have just about everything, it was a different design and it had good fast parts and good slow parts. To do a good lap you needed a fast car which handled well.

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Great track...Even if I was a whopping 8 tenths a lap slower than the TQ time.
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Great track...Even if I was a whopping 8 tenths a lap slower than the TQ time.
Bill,

If you mean 19T Ruben didn't have fastest lap, that was Crashby, a 10.9x I think. Ruben had an 11.18, i had an 11.21.

In Stock i did not have fastest lap that one again went to Crashby with an insane 11.49 I think. I had an 11.67, the best lap i seen from jrrc was 11.68 and EJ had an 11.77. There may of been faster but I did not see them.

It's nice to be fast for 1 lap, I'd rather be fast for the full 8 minutes.

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This always happens when big carpet races leave the Midwest/Northeast and Northern states. Vegas, Florida and California layouts are always 10 foot wide and then some. Boring, wide open racing. Yuk!

On the National level... the track should challenge the racer, almost to the point of intial frustration. Something where you have to work at getting faster and faster, working the track, examining lines and getting better and better with each practice run. Not something where you are turning to more horsepower after 1 practice.
If this is the case, then how come no matter where the large race is, there are always a certain group of guys who you see in the A mains. The same front runners on small tracks/small lanes are front runners on big tracks/wide lanes. Seems to me like the results for most classes have the same names over and over again just in a different order. If you say that the tracks that are larger or more wide open aren't as challenging, how come there aren't more less skilled drivers jumping into the mains on less difficult tracks?
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What ever the layout ends up being at the nationals I guarantee a couple of things. It will not be as Jim described, it will have a mix of fast and technical. It will be a good racing/passing track for both 12th and 10th scale cars. Who ever said it had to or needed to be "On the National level... the track should challenge the racer, almost to the point of intial frustration. Something where you have to work at getting faster and faster, working the track, examining lines and getting better and better with each practice run. Not something where you are turning to more horsepower after 1 practice." does not understand how to design a track or run a race. How does designing a track that you can't pass on make for better racing? How does designing a track that is so dificult to race on when you'll only get 4-6 practice runs on make for a better race? I've seen the small tight tracks that are prevalant throught the midwest and east and I can tell you one thing I would sure hate to race on track where it was so tight that I couldn't make a clean pass on the leader when he's slower than me. Do you really think people like passing thru someone for position because there's not enough room to pass, because you think the layout should be the way it's done in other parts of the country? I don't think so, in our part of the country we call driving like that HACKING, and no one likes a hack.

I have resisted posting anything on this subject but I'm getting tired of hearing abobut what it should be or what it needs to be. The track will have lane sizes per ROAR rules. We will do it the way we think it should be done and if thats not good enough for those of you that always drive on 36'x70' tracks with 6'-8' lanes then I appologize now. Our track will provide the best ROAR race in recent years WITHOUT A DOUBT. Oh ..... and the track will be top notch. Nuff said.
Pretty much sums it up. Regardless of anything, I look forward to just having a good time. I like the no apologies this is how we do it attitude. Anyone who thinks the track itself will keep from letting them have fun should just sit at home and watch results on the internet.
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:57 PM   #210
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What airport would we have to fly into for this race?

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