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Welcome to the XRAY T4'16 Thread & Wikipost! Here you will find some useful info, tips and tricks as well as setups that are used by several team drivers. This wikipost is a work in progress and should continue to develop over time.

Tips & Tricks:

Alex Hagberg's Tech Tip Tuesday articles

How to mount your Protoform LTC-R Body
Setting static camber
How to mount weight on your chassis Part1
How to mount the rear wing on Protoform bodies
Simple troubleshooting guide
How to mount the battery on your chassis
How to glue your front tires for CRC Black carpet with Eric Anderson
Utilizing Exponential and RMode on the M12S
How to mount weight on your chassis Part2

Team driver Tim Wahl posted some very useful tips on Facebook as he worked through building a new kit.

1- Carbon Parts
2-Suspension
3-Solid Axle and Differential
4-Bulkheads & Drivetrain
5-Driveshaft (ECS & CVD)
6-Front & Rear Suspension
7-Tweak
8-Anti-Roll Bar
9-Battery Fix (OPTIONAL)
10-Bumper & Body
11-Shocks
12-Steering

New Graphite Hubs:
Xray have recently released some additional Graphite hubs for the T4 lineup. The 4° Graphite C-Hub has been out for some time and is known to improve steering on entry, and in general makes the car turn better. This has been the go-to c-hub on asphalt for many on the Xray team, though it is not needed on high bite carpet. The Graphite rear hub tends to make the car more stable, especially on corner entry. We are still working on gathering input on the new Graphite steering block, but for the moment feel that it should improve steering response. All Graphite parts are approximately 1g lighter than the Hard or Medium options.

Option Parts to consider:
XRA301196 T4 Graphite Upper Deck 1.6mm V2
XRA301226 Foam Bumper – Hard - highly recommend
XRA302165 Composite Front Suspension Arm 2-Hole – Hard
XRA302169 Composite Front Suspension Arm 1-Hole – Graphite
XRA302803 1.3mm Front Anti-Roll Bar
XRA303169 Composite Rear Suspension Arm 1-Hole – Graphite
XRA303802 1.2mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar
XRA305137 Steel Solid Axle Driveshaft Adapters - HUDY Spring Steel - highly recommend
XRA305242 Composite Drive Shaft Replacement Cap 3.5mm – Orange – Strong (QTY 4)
XRA305351 Aluminum Wheel Hub – Offset “-0.75mm” – Black (QTY 2)
XRA306191 T4 Graphite + Aluminum Fully Adjustable Battery Holder
XRA308264 4S Spring-Set Progressive C=2.5-2.8 (QTY 2)
XRA308276 4S Spring-Set C=2.7 (QTY 2)
XRA308286 4S Spring-Set C=2.6 (QTY 2)

Specific to Asphalt:
XRA302383 Composite C-Hub Right – 4* - Graphite (ECS)
XRA302384 Composite C-Hub Left – 4* - Graphite (ECS)
XRA308039 Aluminum Progressive Shock System – Set (QTY 2)

Specific to Carpet:
XRA301141 T4 Aluminum Flex Chassis 2mm
XRA302375 Composite C-Hub Right – 6* - Hard ***Modification may be required if they don't have the "ECS" stamp.
XRA302376 Composite C-Hub Left – 6* - Hard ***Modification may be required if they don't have the "ECS" stamp.
XRA303711-O Aluminum Rear Lower Suspension Holder – Front – RF

Recent Setups:
3 July 2016 - Alex Hagberg - European Championship - Asphalt - Mod - 2nd
3 July 2016 - Bruno Coelho - European Championship - Asphalt - Mod - 4th
3 July 2016 - Jan Ratheisky - European Championship - Asphalt - 13.5 - TQ + Win

29 June 2016 - Max Kuenning - Reedy - Asphalt - Mod - 4th
29 June 2016 - Keith Yu - Reedy - Asphalt - 13.5 - TQ + 2nd
29 June 2016 - Eric Anderson - Reedy - Asphalt - 13.5 - 3rd

15 May 2016 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 4 Riccione - Asphalt - Mod - TQ + Win
15 May 2016 - Mattia Collina - ETS Rd 4 Riccione - Asphalt - 13.5 - Win

17 April 2016 - Max Kuenning - MHIC - Carpet - Mod - 4th

10 April 2016 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 3 Wels - Carpet - Mod - 2nd
10 April 2016 - Alex Hagberg - ETS Rd 3 Wels - Carpet - Mod - 4th
10 April 2016 - Jan Ratheisky - ETS Rd 3 Wels - Carpet - 13.5 - TQ + Win

22 March 2016 - Paul LeMieux - Canadian Nats - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
22 March 2016 - Luke Pittman - Canadian Nats - Carpet - Mod - 3rd

6 March 2016 - Chris Adams - ROAR Nats - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
6 March 2016 - Craig Xavier - ROAR Nats - Carpet - 17.5 - 4th
6 March 2016 - Eric Anderson - ROAR Nats - Carpet - 17.5 - 5th

6 February 2016 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 2 Koblenz - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
6 February 2016 - Alex Hagberg - ETS Rd 2 Koblenz - Carpet - Mod - 2nd

31 January 2016 - Alex Hagberg - Snowbirds - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
31 January 2016 - Jan Ratheisky - Snowbirds - Carpet - All - See Comments
31 January 2016 - Drew Ellis - Snowbirds - Carpet - 13.5 - 4th
31 January 2016 - Robbie Dodge - Snowbirds - Carpet - 17.5 - Win

13 December 2015 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - Mod - 3rd
13 December 2015 - Alex Hagberg - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - Mod - 4th
13 December 2015 - Olly Jeffries - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - Mod - 7th
13 December 2015 - Jan Ratheisky - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - 13.5 - TQ + Win

29 November 2015 - Paul LeMieux - US Indoor Champs - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win

25 October 2015 - Eric Anderson - Stock Wars - Carpet - 17.5 - 2nd

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02-12-2016, 05:19 PM

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+1 for thread lock. I only use the blue though.

I'm a big fan of the Loctite 248 stick blue (paste)
http://www.loctite.com.au/3320_AUE_H...=8802623553537

02-12-2016, 06:45 PM

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I'm weird I guess... I use finger nail Polish for my lock tight on our cars. Works great

02-12-2016, 08:28 PM

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all Loctite thread lock products are anaerobic. Meaning they cure/set in the absences of air. I really don't think grease right after setting the screw is going to hinder the setting of the screw. I worked in the automotive field for over 30 years. and in building engines where loctite is used, oil is used right after for lubes also.

02-14-2016, 12:45 PM

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I am just curious what is you guys experience on aftermarket front swing shafts>?
I am trying to choose one of the following:
3 racing:
http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-t301-d...=595_1077_1571
Spec r:
http://www.rcmart.com/spec-spr001p8x...=595_1077_1571
yeah racing:
http://www.rcmart.com/drive-shaft-xr...=595_1077_1571

http://www.rcmart.com/yeah-racing-sp...=595_1077_1571

I just hope these don't snap upon impact.
Is it is worth paying double or tripple for a set of Hudys?

I am also curious, if you guys like the feel of font gear diff with million oil in it?

02-14-2016, 01:15 PM

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The 16 kit comes with ecs standard?

But the quality of the new super strong ecs are fantastic and supremely strong! (Other version are good as well just not as strong ).

02-14-2016, 01:26 PM

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Hudy ecs's are worth the money. Have seen the spec r ones break pretty easily

02-14-2016, 01:38 PM

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I just want to chime in on the ECS and threadlocker discussion.

I recommend Loctite 243 or any surface-insensitive threadlock when building the outdrives. 243 is different than the standard 242 formula as it has oil-resistant properties.

http://us.henkel-adhesives-blog.com/...locker-Basics/

With 243 it is not necessary to have perfectly clean threads on the set screws and outdrive couplings.

02-14-2016, 01:54 PM

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The 16 kit comes with ecs standard?

But the quality of the new super strong ecs are fantastic and supremely strong! (Other version are good as well just not as strong ).

Ya, they are standard.
Mine are very slightly bent after a few days of use.
So I am planning to find replacements right now.

02-14-2016, 02:45 PM

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I have all of them except the SSK, so I can't speak for them. The Hudy ones are superior to all of them, but a good second best are the new Yeah racing ones. If you want to save the $, go with them.

02-14-2016, 04:43 PM

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someone has a set-up in 2016, to lower asphalt traction ars system?

02-14-2016, 07:22 PM

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I only use the Purple loctite on RC stuff. Its made for small metric size screws and not as harsh as blue. Its hard to find though but works awesome.

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02-15-2016, 01:19 AM

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Amazon has purple.

02-15-2016, 02:46 AM

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someone has a set-up in 2016, to lower asphalt traction ars system?

The ARS system doesn't work well in low traction, so you probably won't find a setup for it. I tried it twice in medium traction and it had no rear grip.

The only time I've really seen it work well was at the Hudy arena, which is super-smooth and had 300 people laying rubber down.

02-15-2016, 02:09 PM

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view on xray t4 16 of xray factory driver tim wahl and his setup at tonisport onroad series in berlin last sunday

HERE

02-17-2016, 01:42 PM

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Anywhere I can get an aluminum chassis for the 16 car? Have one showing up tomorrow (Thanks EA!) and would like to build it right in. Avid is out of stock and the Xray one isn't available yet.

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