Xray T4 2016
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#451
Tech Regular
iTrader: (35)

On my T416 I'm using the avid chassis on carpet. I recently acquired a team tamale chassis with one of my 14's. My question is - is the team tamale typically used on carpet or asphalt? It seems to have good flex characteristics but visually not as much as the avid. Thinking about putting the TT chassis on my USGT car.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
#452
Tech Master
iTrader: (3)

On my T416 I'm using the avid chassis on carpet. I recently acquired a team tamale chassis with one of my 14's. My question is - is the team tamale typically used on carpet or asphalt? It seems to have good flex characteristics but visually not as much as the avid. Thinking about putting the TT chassis on my USGT car.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
I do know of one guy who ran a TT chassis on asphalt at last years' Timezone Grand Prix and he loved it. So there's that too.
#453
Tech Regular
iTrader: (35)

Makes sense Danny. I appreciate the info. I'll try it out soon then. The chassis is in good shape and appears to be flat when I lay it on a thick piece of glass.
Our carpet track is pretty small, 17.5 in anything is more than enough power, and located close to the indoor dirt track and picks up some dust, and almost always feels like a 'green' track. So we're usually trying to dial in more chassis flex and traction.
I'll run it as is, do some tweaks, note lap times and feelings, then swap it out for the TT and see how it compares for me.
Our carpet track is pretty small, 17.5 in anything is more than enough power, and located close to the indoor dirt track and picks up some dust, and almost always feels like a 'green' track. So we're usually trying to dial in more chassis flex and traction.
I'll run it as is, do some tweaks, note lap times and feelings, then swap it out for the TT and see how it compares for me.
#454

Which shock piston to use for medium - high carpet? Which thickness to use?
I couldn't find anything about it on menu, it just shows you have a few options.
and there wasn't any tuning tips.
Could anyone share your experience?
Edit: this is for user manual base setup.
I couldn't find anything about it on menu, it just shows you have a few options.
and there wasn't any tuning tips.
Could anyone share your experience?
Edit: this is for user manual base setup.
#455

4x1.1. Bin the rest, they are never used.
#457
Tech Adept

I had some trouble with this myself but if you look closely the arrows point to the front of the arm. So the x mark the shims in front of the arm, either 0, 1 or 2. The rest goes to the back. In this particular case the whole wheelbase is shifted back by 1 mm.
#458
Tech Master
iTrader: (3)

Makes sense Danny. I appreciate the info. I'll try it out soon then. The chassis is in good shape and appears to be flat when I lay it on a thick piece of glass.
Our carpet track is pretty small, 17.5 in anything is more than enough power, and located close to the indoor dirt track and picks up some dust, and almost always feels like a 'green' track. So we're usually trying to dial in more chassis flex and traction.
I'll run it as is, do some tweaks, note lap times and feelings, then swap it out for the TT and see how it compares for me.
Our carpet track is pretty small, 17.5 in anything is more than enough power, and located close to the indoor dirt track and picks up some dust, and almost always feels like a 'green' track. So we're usually trying to dial in more chassis flex and traction.
I'll run it as is, do some tweaks, note lap times and feelings, then swap it out for the TT and see how it compares for me.
#459

Makes sense Danny. I appreciate the info. I'll try it out soon then. The chassis is in good shape and appears to be flat when I lay it on a thick piece of glass.
Our carpet track is pretty small, 17.5 in anything is more than enough power, and located close to the indoor dirt track and picks up some dust, and almost always feels like a 'green' track. So we're usually trying to dial in more chassis flex and traction.
I'll run it as is, do some tweaks, note lap times and feelings, then swap it out for the TT and see how it compares for me.
Our carpet track is pretty small, 17.5 in anything is more than enough power, and located close to the indoor dirt track and picks up some dust, and almost always feels like a 'green' track. So we're usually trying to dial in more chassis flex and traction.
I'll run it as is, do some tweaks, note lap times and feelings, then swap it out for the TT and see how it compares for me.
#460

Whenever the team drivers use the alloy chassis's they always use the 1.6mm top deck and often also use the split front pivot blocks.
#461

Thanks for your information!
I am a little disappointed that the bulk head blocks and a arm shaft holder blocks aren't keyed into the chassis. I found that how i screw the bolt definitely easily affects how tight the a arm moves.
The problem I am having with this design is, the settings of the car can be easily changed upon collision, which could also create more slop , I imagine.
Does anyone have any problem with this on real track test? Do you guys have any trick to prevent it from tweaking?
I guess I will just have to examine the car every time after it gets a decent hit.
I am a little disappointed that the bulk head blocks and a arm shaft holder blocks aren't keyed into the chassis. I found that how i screw the bolt definitely easily affects how tight the a arm moves.
The problem I am having with this design is, the settings of the car can be easily changed upon collision, which could also create more slop , I imagine.
Does anyone have any problem with this on real track test? Do you guys have any trick to prevent it from tweaking?
I guess I will just have to examine the car every time after it gets a decent hit.
#463
Tech Master
iTrader: (3)

Chassis plate wise, aluminum is nearly always the way to go in mod. It gets weight lower, numbs the feel of the car out a bit, and makes the car less susceptible to grip rolling.
I know for me when I switched to the aluminum chassis I found like 3 tenths a lap on most types of tracks I run on compared to the CF.
#464

Finally finished build.
I really enjoyed the building these.
It didn't require any additional shims to make the car slop free, while my trf419 requires a lot, I also had to modify the shim options to prevent binding on my 419.
But T4 just seems to be so precisely designed.
The shocks are so much better than Tamiya ones...
Bleed hole works brilliantly, lol, this is my first time got 0 rebound without multiple tries, and it is the dead even for all shocks, I never had this experience before.
I think X ray will get all my money from now on.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9n6ra11fq...02.25.jpg?dl=0
I really enjoyed the building these.
It didn't require any additional shims to make the car slop free, while my trf419 requires a lot, I also had to modify the shim options to prevent binding on my 419.
But T4 just seems to be so precisely designed.
The shocks are so much better than Tamiya ones...
Bleed hole works brilliantly, lol, this is my first time got 0 rebound without multiple tries, and it is the dead even for all shocks, I never had this experience before.
I think X ray will get all my money from now on.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9n6ra11fq...02.25.jpg?dl=0