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Welcome to the XRAY T4'16 Thread & Wikipost! Here you will find some useful info, tips and tricks as well as setups that are used by several team drivers. This wikipost is a work in progress and should continue to develop over time.

Tips & Tricks:

Alex Hagberg's Tech Tip Tuesday articles

How to mount your Protoform LTC-R Body
Setting static camber
How to mount weight on your chassis Part1
How to mount the rear wing on Protoform bodies
Simple troubleshooting guide
How to mount the battery on your chassis
How to glue your front tires for CRC Black carpet with Eric Anderson
Utilizing Exponential and RMode on the M12S
How to mount weight on your chassis Part2

Team driver Tim Wahl posted some very useful tips on Facebook as he worked through building a new kit.

1- Carbon Parts
2-Suspension
3-Solid Axle and Differential
4-Bulkheads & Drivetrain
5-Driveshaft (ECS & CVD)
6-Front & Rear Suspension
7-Tweak
8-Anti-Roll Bar
9-Battery Fix (OPTIONAL)
10-Bumper & Body
11-Shocks
12-Steering

New Graphite Hubs:
Xray have recently released some additional Graphite hubs for the T4 lineup. The 4° Graphite C-Hub has been out for some time and is known to improve steering on entry, and in general makes the car turn better. This has been the go-to c-hub on asphalt for many on the Xray team, though it is not needed on high bite carpet. The Graphite rear hub tends to make the car more stable, especially on corner entry. We are still working on gathering input on the new Graphite steering block, but for the moment feel that it should improve steering response. All Graphite parts are approximately 1g lighter than the Hard or Medium options.

Option Parts to consider:
XRA301196 T4 Graphite Upper Deck 1.6mm V2
XRA301226 Foam Bumper – Hard - highly recommend
XRA302165 Composite Front Suspension Arm 2-Hole – Hard
XRA302169 Composite Front Suspension Arm 1-Hole – Graphite
XRA302803 1.3mm Front Anti-Roll Bar
XRA303169 Composite Rear Suspension Arm 1-Hole – Graphite
XRA303802 1.2mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar
XRA305137 Steel Solid Axle Driveshaft Adapters - HUDY Spring Steel - highly recommend
XRA305242 Composite Drive Shaft Replacement Cap 3.5mm – Orange – Strong (QTY 4)
XRA305351 Aluminum Wheel Hub – Offset “-0.75mm” – Black (QTY 2)
XRA306191 T4 Graphite + Aluminum Fully Adjustable Battery Holder
XRA308264 4S Spring-Set Progressive C=2.5-2.8 (QTY 2)
XRA308276 4S Spring-Set C=2.7 (QTY 2)
XRA308286 4S Spring-Set C=2.6 (QTY 2)
Specific to Asphalt:
XRA302383 Composite C-Hub Right – 4* - Graphite (ECS)
XRA302384 Composite C-Hub Left – 4* - Graphite (ECS)
XRA308039 Aluminum Progressive Shock System – Set (QTY 2)

Specific to Carpet:

XRA301141 T4 Aluminum Flex Chassis 2mm
XRA302375 Composite C-Hub Right – 6* - Hard ***Modification may be required if they don't have the "ECS" stamp.

XRA302376 Composite C-Hub Left – 6* - Hard ***Modification may be required if they don't have the "ECS" stamp.

XRA303711-O Aluminum Rear Lower Suspension Holder – Front – RF
Recent Setups:
3 July 2016 - Alex Hagberg - European Championship - Asphalt - Mod - 2nd
3 July 2016 - Bruno Coelho - European Championship - Asphalt - Mod - 4th
3 July 2016 - Jan Ratheisky - European Championship - Asphalt - 13.5 - TQ + Win

29 June 2016 - Max Kuenning - Reedy - Asphalt - Mod - 4th
29 June 2016 - Keith Yu - Reedy - Asphalt - 13.5 - TQ + 2nd
29 June 2016 - Eric Anderson - Reedy - Asphalt - 13.5 - 3rd

15 May 2016 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 4 Riccione - Asphalt - Mod - TQ + Win
15 May 2016 - Mattia Collina - ETS Rd 4 Riccione - Asphalt - 13.5 - Win

17 April 2016 - Max Kuenning - MHIC - Carpet - Mod - 4th

10 April 2016 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 3 Wels - Carpet - Mod - 2nd
10 April 2016 - Alex Hagberg - ETS Rd 3 Wels - Carpet - Mod - 4th
10 April 2016 - Jan Ratheisky - ETS Rd 3 Wels - Carpet - 13.5 - TQ + Win

22 March 2016 - Paul LeMieux - Canadian Nats - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
22 March 2016 - Luke Pittman - Canadian Nats - Carpet - Mod - 3rd

6 March 2016 - Chris Adams - ROAR Nats - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
6 March 2016 - Craig Xavier - ROAR Nats - Carpet - 17.5 - 4th
6 March 2016 - Eric Anderson - ROAR Nats - Carpet - 17.5 - 5th

6 February 2016 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 2 Koblenz - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
6 February 2016 - Alex Hagberg - ETS Rd 2 Koblenz - Carpet - Mod - 2nd

31 January 2016 - Alex Hagberg - Snowbirds - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win
31 January 2016 - Jan Ratheisky - Snowbirds - Carpet - All - See Comments
31 January 2016 - Drew Ellis - Snowbirds - Carpet - 13.5 - 4th
31 January 2016 - Robbie Dodge - Snowbirds - Carpet - 17.5 - Win

13 December 2015 - Bruno Coelho - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - Mod - 3rd
13 December 2015 - Alex Hagberg - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - Mod - 4th
13 December 2015 - Olly Jeffries - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - Mod - 7th
13 December 2015 - Jan Ratheisky - ETS Rd 1 Hrotovice - Carpet - 13.5 - TQ + Win

29 November 2015 - Paul LeMieux - US Indoor Champs - Carpet - Mod - TQ + Win

25 October 2015 - Eric Anderson - Stock Wars - Carpet - 17.5 - 2nd

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Old 12-14-2015, 11:34 PM
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Thanks for quick replays! As it looks it's 50/50 on doing or not Anyway, I did CA thing. Wasn't that difficult, only in some places glue went not just on edge but tiny bit on surface as well. And as I wiped it off only when did whole chases it was already hard enough not to get all of it off. Anyway, it is almost unnoticeable visually. And I guess nothing is attached so close to the side that it can throw off some kind of alignment. Edge itself looks cool - much darker black.

But I totally see other side as well - quality of carbon part sides where very good, perfectly smooth. So, most probably it would last also without CA treatment.
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Hi guys , I've been out of the hobby for about 4 years and now getting the itch again lol lol just got myself 2 of these bad boys lol to run 17.5 and mod . What's the best motor for those 2 applications ? Money is of no concern and I know this isn't the proper place to ask this question but as I'm running xray I wanted to ask here sorry .
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I personally found it is more important to sand the edges then CA them. It is harder to delaminate the chassis if it has round edges!
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Originally Posted by maris View Post
Thanks for quick replays! As it looks it's 50/50 on doing or not Anyway, I did CA thing. Wasn't that difficult, only in some places glue went not just on edge but tiny bit on surface as well. And as I wiped it off only when did whole chases it was already hard enough not to get all of it off. Anyway, it is almost unnoticeable visually. And I guess nothing is attached so close to the side that it can throw off some kind of alignment. Edge itself looks cool - much darker black.

But I totally see other side as well - quality of carbon part sides where very good, perfectly smooth. So, most probably it would last also without CA treatment.
Acetone removes CA. Put some acetone on a paper towel and start rubbing. It will come off in 10 seconds.
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I have been using CA from locktite with a brush aplicator it works great, round your edges and apply. Watch the acetone it cleans CA great also can soften epoxy.
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Hi Guys, Can anyone tell me the length of the shocks on the 2016 car please (From the centre of each ball connector).

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Originally Posted by Qatmix View Post
Hi Guys, Can anyone tell me the length of the shocks on the 2016 car please (From the centre of each ball connector).

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They are the same length they have been since the short shocks came out. They will fit right on your Tamiya with some custom shock towers just like they did Marc's and Krapps.

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They are the same length they have been since the short shocks came out. They will fit right on your Tamiya with some custom shock towers just like they did Marc's and Krapps.

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Thanks for that. So my black SLP's are just the same as the new 16 versions. I just assumed by the hype on the X-ray spec sheet that they were different.
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Thanks for that. So my black SLP's are just the same as the new 16 versions. I just assumed by the hype on the X-ray spec sheet that they were different.
Xray has had the same shocks since they introduced the short ones a few years ago. The new black ones are the same size as well.

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I spotted in Olly's set-up this remark ''New Alu Chassis with cuts''!

I suspect the word ''new'' is for the '16 version but what does he mean by cuts?

Some clue from the guy's that were at the sight?

http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...&setup=t4_2016
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Probably talking about the Avid T4 16 aluminum chassis.
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For those that have the Avid aluminum chassis how do you mount your electronics? To it seems that there is not enough area to hold them on the chassis unless you mount them like usual and try to clean out the dirt/stone buildup between runs.
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No its a new Xray option chassis that they made while we were at Hudy practicing for the ETS race. It has went into production but I would bet its a few months from hitting the stores world wide.

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Originally Posted by EAMotorsports View Post
No its a new Xray option chassis that they made while we were at Hudy practicing for the ETS race. It has went into production but I would bet its a few months from hitting the stores world wide.

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Though it still had quite large cutouts.

Was the idea to make something inbetween the alu and the carbon chassis for flex?
Could a thicker carbon chassis do the job?
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Though it still had quite large cutouts.

Was the idea to make something inbetween the alu and the carbon chassis for flex?
Could a thicker carbon chassis do the job?
At least from what I hear of the US team drivers around me (running the Avid chassis, but very similar) its more about weight placement and helping to prevent traction roll. There is a stiffness difference of course, but the added weight down low helps on carpet. He is also running the 1.5mm Avid top deck along with it. He has 4 cars, 2 with aluminum chassis for carpet, and two with carbon chassis for asphalt...

Haven't tried it myself, but thats what I was told by someone who is pretty darn fast around here...
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