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Old 06-01-2015, 06:00 AM
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I've been digging a bit and I know the brushed technique is old, so I only find very old reviews about it. However, I am going to race an F103 next season, and I am allowed 2 different brushed motors and one sensorless brushless by the rule book. The sensorless brushless in my experience is way to crude on acelleration, dosing power is very important with an F1, so I choose brushed. I have read the Corally MMS 4 is the best, back in 2009, and Novaks are good, too, in 2011. The MMS 4 is hard to get, Novaks are still available but what is currently the best brushed controller? Is there a successor of the MMS 4 with it's rpm driven drive frequency (is that English)?

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There is really no significant difference between any of the better brushed esc's. I still use a good old Novak Cyclone on the rare occasions I need something brushed and it's as good as they get.
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Does this already qualify as a good one?

http://www.rcmart.com/quicrun-brushe...?cPath=1560_51

I also like it's waterproofness, looking at our Dutch climate...

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best brushed ESC ever is the KO VFS1 (can't remember which was the last one, maybe Version2 or sthing) and one of its multiple badge-engineered versions. Hara Twister, Corally MMS, and a few others. Absofreakinglutely bada$$. I'm sure you can find some NOS if you look well enough.

here's a pic of one of mine from 2008 in my Cyclone TC (the external cap is bigger than the ESC )
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Then again, in the "big footprint" category, a Cyclone TC works 99% as well

The quickrun one you showed isn't a competition ESC.



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Thanks, that is very useful. If you can think of other names for the same item, please post. I can find some on ebay.

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Why get these cheap esc, when a high purchase like Tekins you can run Sensored/Sensorless & Brushed motor??
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Originally Posted by Geezatec View Post
Why get these cheap esc, when a high purchase like Tekins you can run Sensored/Sensorless & Brushed motor??
Considering the rules the OP has to follow, using a brushed ESC seems to be the best power alternative. Sensorless brushless motors won't work well in an F1 class.

Novak made good brushed ESCs - KO VFS1 was also a good unit. I had a lot of success running the LRP Quantum Competition 2 back when brushed motors were still popular...
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Originally Posted by Geezatec View Post
Why get these cheap esc, when a high purchase like Tekins you can run Sensored/Sensorless & Brushed motor??
Why spend that much money when a $20 unit from ebay like an old Novak or LRP will work just as well if not better? Hell, ask around in the wanted forum and someone will probably give you one for shipping.
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Best brushed ESC's:
Lrp v7.1, Lrp SR , Novak GTB , Lrp QC3 , Tekin RS pro , KO VFS1, etc.....
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The current tekin range of brushless controllers also do brushed motors - RSX/RSgen2/RSspec. They also have the FX/FX-R range.

All bar the RSX are super tiny and ideal to squeeze into F1 chassis.

What number of turns is the motor you are using?
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I'm actually running an LRP Quantum 3 in my F1, and it's great. Small size is useful with the limited space in an F1 chassis too.
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I've got a Tekin FX I used for a short time in my F1 car with the old Tamiya silver can motors if you are interested
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In my opinion the LRP QC3 was the last best brushed ESC. It came out at the same time the brushless system became popular in the RC world and this ESC was forgotten. The LRP QC3 was the latest reiteration of the Ko Propo VFS-1/Hara twister with specific to LRP QC3 profiles & programmable settings.

http://www.lrp.cc/en/products/sales/...gital/details/
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Originally Posted by cplus View Post
... What number of turns is the motor you are using?
We are allowed the Carson Cup Machine which is 23T, or a Tamiya Formula Motor 32T (54176). I believe most use the Cup Machine, and I expect the people running a Formula Motor will run a significantly FDR. Basically nothing fancy motor-wise.

Thanks for alle the input so far, keep it coming. I really appreciate it.

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I have one of these sitting around;


It's an MRT MX Pro, the same company that makes the clone PT's, and it's fully waterproof

If you want to pay for postage to wherever you are you can have it.

It's instructions and specs
http://www.team-mrt.com/pdf/mx-pro.pdf
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