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Old 04-11-2015, 12:17 AM
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I have an lrp sphere and an lrp x12 17.5 motor that I've had for God knows how long
I have a TRF417 that needs electronics
Is this combo too old and out of date to run?
I have no idea how either have been run in the past
They came with used cars I've bought in the past

Is it worth the time to set up or should I just toss them and buy a new setup?


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Old 04-11-2015, 12:24 AM
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Depends on who you are racing against and how good you are.
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Old 04-11-2015, 12:32 AM
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Boosted or Blinky?

Boosted
You could make an x12 semi competitive with the right ESC. With boosted classes, the latest motor is "less" important, the ESC will help generate the performance.

However, the sphere is no good. It doesn't have the right timing adjustability to be competitive.

Blinky
The x12 will get trounced in blinky in reality. You could still run it, but it won't have the top end legs to keep up with the latest motors.
You also can't run the sphere in blinky class. It doesn't have a no-timing/blinky mode.

Not convinced you can run a lipo with it as is either. It definitely doesn't have a cut-off, and not sure if it can safely handle the 8.4V output of a lipo.

You will never be competitive with NiMh - Too slow. Too heavy.

417
No dramas. In the right hands it can still win in 17.5 - blinky or boosted.
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stick it in an run it. save your money. those x12s were great torque monsters.

ps, you dont need lipo cutoff for 5 minutes :P you could run a 2500mah rx pack and not hit its cutoff in 17.5 over 5 minutes unless you were obscenely overgeared or overtimed, but the motor wouldnt survive 5 minutes anyway so who cares . you definitely get some top end with newer motors, but most tracks arent really big enough.

it really will just come down to how consistant you are.
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Keep the motor and just get a new esc?
Stock class hobbywing or trackstar?
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You also can't run the sphere in blinky class. It doesn't have a no-timing/blinky mode.
If I recall correctly, there was more than one model of the Sphere. Model number LRP80500 is currently on the ROAR-approved list:
http://www.roarracing.com/approved_non_timing_escs.php

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stick it in an run it. save your money.
I agree.
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Except for the Blinky light the Spere is a good Blinky esc. It also has a LiPo mode and Cut off voltage. It also has an automatic cell mode and has protection against reverse polarity! One of the best esc LRP ever prduced...
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Run it and let her Riiippppppp 8 )
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Originally Posted by howardcano View Post
If I recall correctly, there was more than one model of the Sphere. Model number LRP80500 is currently on the ROAR-approved list:
http://www.roarracing.com/approved_non_timing_escs.php
This looks like the older - been wrong before though.
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Sphere will work great in blinky class, I used one for years and still have it as my backup
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Technically the Sphere isn't legal for blinky, it does change the timing.

Run what you got for now get some experience. Once you're out there a few times and you know you're gonna stay with it then update your stuff.

Just remember one thing about free advice, you get what you pay for.
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i say run with what you have.
when you can drive a bunch of perfect heats/mains then think about going faster/new equipment.
too many people have way too much equipment for their talents!
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I went through this at the beginning of blinky. The only sphere that is legal for blinky says "brushless and brushed". If it says competition, modes 5-8 put in small amounts of timing. I used to have the string of emails from LRP but not anymore.

Run what you have, if the local track starts to give you problems get a trackstar or a hobbywing justock.

I'd rock it until I was at the end of its potential.
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Ha! When I read the thread title I thought it was a discussion if us old guys had the reaction time to compete against our kids!

For me the answer is no

But upon reading the thread I'd say, like several others, save your $ and run it for now, upgrade when it matters to your driving.
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Originally Posted by macscac View Post
Hi
I have an lrp sphere and an lrp x12 17.5 motor that I've had for God knows how long
I have a TRF417 that needs electronics
Is this combo too old and out of date to run?
I have no idea how either have been run in the past
They came with used cars I've bought in the past

Is it worth the time to set up or should I just toss them and buy a new setup?


That is still good. IMHO...
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