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Old 09-30-2005, 01:27 PM   #16
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Ben.C - I was talking with the Tech crew from the IIC. Marcs 415 was basicly a one off car. It had a huge 3.5+ mill chassis with areas for the bulk head shaved.
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Old 09-30-2005, 02:33 PM   #17
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Yokomo, HPI, Tamiya do seem to design their cars soley for rubber. Probably b/c Asia and Europe race a lot of rubber on carpet and asphalt.
Every car manufacturer designs for rubber first then makes parts to make the car work on Foams. AE, Losi, HPI, HB, Schu, Corally, Xray, etc....we all do the same. 99% of the world sedan market runs on rubber tires so it has to be this way.
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Old 09-30-2005, 03:19 PM   #18
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Every car manufacturer designs for rubber first then makes parts to make the car work on Foams. AE, Losi, HPI, HB, Schu, Corally, Xray, etc....we all do the same. 99% of the world sedan market runs on rubber tires so it has to be this way.
Good point.
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most def, Yokomo builds cars for rubber tire racing. LCG and BD are two cars SPECIFICALLY designed for asphalt or rubber on carpet. JRX-S is too stiff as of now (I've heard they are making new parts to soften up the suspension). Schumacher looks like a really smooth car on the track. Pro4 Hara is also designed for rubber tire racing. And I can't comment on the others.
I beg to differ on the JRX-S comment. I know from experience that the JRX-S can be just as good as any other car with rubbers. Come on Chad.....give me a little credit....haha.
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:25 AM   #20
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a local racer has told me that any touring car with aluminum suspension holders over time will bend or wear out the holes in the chassis. while the Xray's suspension holders are made of re-enforced plastic?? and are not design into the chassis itself. thus cheaper to replace than a lower deck. after hearing that. i would go for the Xray TK05.
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Old 10-03-2005, 10:04 AM   #21
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a local racer has told me that any touring car with aluminum suspension holders over time will bend or wear out the holes in the chassis.


This is not at all the case. I have alloy suspension mounts on my car right now that are 3 years old and they are still perfect. They habe been on 2 other cars and I saw no need for new ones when I built the latest one.

As far as the chassis wearing I can't see how it could wear with alloy or plastic mounts.

I would not listen to this particular locak racer
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This is not at all the case. I have alloy suspension mounts on my car right now that are 3 years old and they are still perfect. They habe been on 2 other cars and I saw no need for new ones when I built the latest one.

As far as the chassis wearing I can't see how it could wear with alloy or plastic mounts.
a hard enough hit on any car will break. but for most crashes i see, suspension arms are the first to go and maybe the aluminum mounts.
i found what he said to be interesting. seeing that the countersunk holes could slowly delaminate and get bigger. unless you use CA glue.

i could be wrong. i don't race that often anyways.
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Racer the cars with more conventional suspension blocks work just fine and unless the mounting screws were loosre I just dont see how they could damage the chassis plate. I have seem some suspension blocks bend but only in extremly heavy crashes and even then they all run less than $20 a block.

I run an X-ray and the system used by X-Ray and Corally is not going to bend the suspension block but in a crash that would bend the conventional block the plastic holder, screw and special nut would all be bent or torn putting the repair cost in the same neighborhood. I prefer the X-ray system due to the easy tow adjustment with shims over multiple block method but the durabilty is no better or worse.

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Old 10-03-2005, 11:57 AM   #25
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I have had:

Road Runner Xpress (Carbon)
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Schumacher Mission (Carbon)
Schumacher Mi2 (Carbon)

Not one car has delaminated in the chassis counter sinks or anywhere else.
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when are you guys releasing some pics for your new car?
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It will be a few more weeks until we have pre-production cars to photograph. Right now all our team driver are running prototypes that are not as pretty as the final car. We have some nice Pro Engineer renderings though...lol!
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In 9 years of racing I haven't seen one car delaminate in the counter sunk holes. I've seen screws pulled thru during a bad crash but never have I seen a hole delaminate.
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In 9 years of racing I haven't seen one car delaminate in the counter sunk holes. I've seen screws pulled thru during a bad crash but never have I seen a hole delaminate.
Heh, where have you seen that ? But you have to say that was a HARD hit, and boy do those wheel nuts mesh well with joints in the pvc .

I think the TT-01 is the best car for carpet rubber tire racing because it doesnt have ANY graphite to delaminate or aluminum or any high quality material on it to get damaged and cost a lot to replace .
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I'd say go wit hthe company you know and trust, any car can go as fast as the others if tuned right.
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