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Old 09-22-2005, 09:04 AM   #16
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Actually the Bolink 1/12th in the 80's and early 90's were not the same as the factory cars.Many of the big races back then they had proto types that if they worked they would come out with them.I'm talking when the Kelley brothers and Tim Morton (TRC) drove for them.But at that time I drove for Delta.
Also on that German thread they forgot the Parma Panther(it used the Leisure rear pod).
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There was a car in the late 80's called the TQ Eagle that had a U-shaped chassis type of design. Not sure if this is the one you're talking about. Could be the TPS car too.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:50 AM   #18
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Darkside-Will you be offering a complete kit or a conversion?

Any more pics?
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:17 PM   #19
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Seems like everything with the pan cars has been done before! It's cool looking back on all those older designs ....

The Maverick Oval Chassis guys have been testing a prototype 1/12 on-road conversion also ... More info coming soon.
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Seems like everything with the pan cars has been done before! It's cool looking back on all those older designs ....

The Maverick Oval Chassis guys have been testing a prototype 1/12 on-road conversion also ... More info coming soon.
Jake have you ever tried raising the front of the shock on a 1/12th car? The Oval guys do it to get more rear traction. How much do you think this would hurt steering?
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Adrian:

We're playing with it on the prototype. The forward shock mount is on a standoff, so it's easy to change the height. We'll be working on a cooler mount once we find the range we're looking for. But, right now is higher than the 12L4 postion ...


Darkside: Will you be bringing your vertical side shocks to the 1/12 scale world? That picture is awesome!
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We're playing with it on the prototype. The forward shock mount is on a standoff, so it's easy to change the height. We'll be working on a cooler mount once we find the range we're looking for. But, right now is higher than the 12L4 postion ...


Darkside: Will you be bringing your vertical side shocks to the 1/12 scale world? That picture is awesome!
Going to give it a try, but there is a lot of stuff to fit under a very short body.

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Darkside: No doubt! This little bodies are slammed so low, it's hard to fit everything in there!
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Darkside-Will you be taking names for a waiting list to get a kit?
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Darkside: No doubt! This little bodies are slammed so low, it's hard to fit everything in there!
I just mounted a PF Speed 12 and with it cut on the body lines there is only ~1/8" between the top of the batts and the body and ~1/4" between the top pod plate and the body. I had to form a slight bubble (~1/16") in the body with a lighter and my thumb to make clearence for the servo leads coming out the top of my Rx. The sick thing is I know guys that run this body even lower!
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Bullfrog, you must have kept about everything you ever owned. I've got a bunch left of new stuff also, I just sold some new 1/12 bodies on ebay. After seeing the final prices I got I wondered if I had should have held a few of them.

The history site was cool.

The idea of pan cars having everything done before is possible but no doubt there will be more. There are loads of sketches kicking around and even a freak Vicfor car that I prototyped some new formats on. As much as I hate certain things about the newer cars overall they do run well once close on setup.

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Your right I've got alot of old stuff I raced. I've still missing the radio tray for my Leisure 100 1/12th car.
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Like 2wd buggies I think were are in the fine development era of 1/12th cars. There is no re-inventing the wheel. Doesn't mean you cant try though...lol!
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I've thought about trying to design a 1/12 scale that didn't have the weight of the motor moving with the pod. I'm thinking that to reduce unsprung weight, but would that apply to the 1/12 scale design?

What about just simplifiying the whole pod thing and going with a "solid" chassis that just flexes in the back? (pick whatever front end you want)

I know ROAR 1/12 scale state you need a live axle (as opposed to independant). What about a design that allowed just the axle to move up and down each side independantly? That could be about as light as you could get for the "unsprung" weight.

Don't worry about the design details, what would make the best handling car?

I would be using the design assumption that the car is running on smooth flat carpet, not asphalt.
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New BMI-12A Asphalt Special Announced on the 1/12th Forum:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...08#post1836908
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