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Old 08-20-2014, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Salkin View Post
OK.

Sorry for the OT, but a little while back I was visiting Sanwa's website to look at the MT-4s and was compelled to buy by the following fine description of the MT-4s:

Entry for the race seriously
Feeling a new driving which collaboration
with peripheral devices produces
And more than anything, more enjoyable world
Attraction of MT-4S to add evolushon & scalability
to MT-4 of deep R/C

http://sanwa-denshi.com/rc/car/propo/mt-4s.html

They are selling some of the top high end gear in the RC world, and they do not have the resources to facilitate an understandable translation ??
Gotta love it eh?
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Wow! that was quick, unluckily for me (Or at least the bank account) I like to upgrade every time they change the number

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At least tamiya is still designing new cars.
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Nice. Didn't see that coming.

I was thinking about getting a second chassis toward the end of the year, I guess it's a new chassis not just an upgraded one then!
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I don't have the statistics, but are racers consistently able to set new lap records and consistently faster laps each time a new TC version are released?
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Originally Posted by Salkin View Post
OK.

Sorry for the OT, but a little while back I was visiting Sanwa's website to look at the MT-4s and was compelled to buy by the following fine description of the MT-4s:

Entry for the race seriously
Feeling a new driving which collaboration
with peripheral devices produces
And more than anything, more enjoyable world
Attraction of MT-4S to add evolushon & scalability
to MT-4 of deep R/C

http://sanwa-denshi.com/rc/car/propo/mt-4s.html

They are selling some of the top high end gear in the RC world, and they do not have the resources to facilitate an understandable translation ??
You should see some of the german translation for the GM products. I could not even understand the three steps needed to turn on the ESC.

But yes, they do have translators for the overseas branches. You're just looking at the wrong site.
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how many will wait for the 420?
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I just hope that they don't change the C-Hubs...
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I just hope that they don't change the C-Hubs...
Better yet, go with the dynamic toe rear end so we can have twice as many!

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how many will wait for the 420?
I see what you did there.
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I am guessing that he "redesigned" shocks are the slightly larger diameter "big bores" with the one piece shaft guides that come on the new shaft drive car.

We finally get to see the larger diffs we have been hearing about for months now.

While that was a quick run with the 418 I think even Tamiya is admitting that it simply wasn't the leap forward over the last iterations of the 417 chassis as they had hoped it would be. I personally found my 417 with a hard Raceberry chassis to be a more forgiving, faster car to drive than my 418. Either the TC world is far more competitive than it ever has been or (IMO) this is the biggest admission that the 418 wasn't so good--I don't EVER remember Tamiya having a one-number chassis that never turned into an X, Worlds Edition, MS etc.

I kind of feel like I jumped the gun getting a new Samix aluminum chassis to run this carpet season with because I figured the 418 Worlds Car would come out, not a whole new chassis number but oh well. I am sure they will copy Yokomo to the T again with a one-sided layshaft and low motor mount like the BD-7 2014.
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Let's see. They got the chassis wrong, they got the motor mount wrong, the bulkheads and everything else. Clearly there's need for a new car, hehehehe!

Lucky they got the new C hub and the suspension arms right. Who wants to bet they'll keep the hinge pins too?

Larger diffs? How do you know? And what's the benefit?
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Let's see. They got the chassis wrong, they got the motor mount wrong, the bulkheads and everything else. Clearly there's need for a new car, hehehehe!

Lucky they got the new C hub and the suspension arms right. Who wants to bet they'll keep the hinge pins too?

Larger diffs? How do you know? And what's the benefit?
Well, I don't "know" exactly but reading around coverage of the larger races like ETS people have been talking about these redesigned diffs that hold a bit more oil. I would think Tamiya would be correcting the fact that to really build a solid, reliable diff you must sand the backs of the gears and at least in my experience throw out the thin 0.1 shims and use individual 0.2 or 0.3 shims depending on mesh.

What do you think is wrong with the motor mount? Not challenging, I am just curious myself.
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wow, pretty much admitting that the 418 was enough of a fubar to break tradition and rush off to the next number. Like it never happened
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Originally Posted by Salkin View Post
OK.

Sorry for the OT, but a little while back I was visiting Sanwa's website to look at the MT-4s and was compelled to buy by the following fine description of the MT-4s:

Entry for the race seriously
Feeling a new driving which collaboration
with peripheral devices produces
And more than anything, more enjoyable world
Attraction of MT-4S to add evolushon & scalability
to MT-4 of deep R/C

http://sanwa-denshi.com/rc/car/propo/mt-4s.html

They are selling some of the top high end gear in the RC world, and they do not have the resources to facilitate an understandable translation ??
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