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Old 08-11-2014, 08:56 PM   #31
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Oh, and here's my "money no object and I don't care about brand consistency build" for 13.5T blinky asphalt racing

Chassis: Yokomo BD7 ETS champion limited kit
Radio: Sanwa M12
Reciever: Sanwa RX472
Servo: Sanwa SRG-BLS v2
ESC: Orion R10.1
Motor: Trinity D4 13.5 (Express Motorsports Twister Edition)
Batteries: Muchmore Impact 6000
Charger & Power Supply: Muchmore Cell Master Double & CTX-P
Tyre Warmers: Muchmore CTX-W
Tools & Set-Up: HUDY, and lots of it

nice one

thanks for the list will have a look at those items on line.

haven't heard of most of those items so thanks.
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Some interesting comments here

here's my 2˘

If you've got the budget
Buy the best
Don't waste time with the rest

Since you've gone the Yokomo/Hwing route
Here's a build with those components from Atsuhi Hara
Copy this build, and you are off to a running start

I typically recommend the kit setup to start, work from there to suit your driving style, and track conditions


http://ets.redrc.net/page/3/

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Rush that assembly, and you will be forever chasing setups, equipment, along with those precious .1s a lap
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All I was asking from the very beginning was what is the best stuff you can buy to save myself a lot of stuffing around and incorrect purchases.
Figured I'd chime in because I recently answered this question for a local .. He had previous RC experience and wanted to get back into RC with the intention of not spending his money twice - meaning having to upgrade in the near future. He was committed and was past the stage of figuring out if this hobby was for him .. my recommendations were based on what I run and what I know some of the top racers in the country run.

Often times there is no one single 'best'. For each component there are a couple of choices that would fit the bill as being the 'best'.

Here were my recommendations to him, they are my biased opinion.

Chassis - Xray (durability for a newer driver) - Awesomatix, BD7
Radio - The flagship radios from KO Propo, Airtronics, Futaba. (the right one is the most comfortable one in your hand)
ESC - Hobbywing V3.1 (I run it - I like it) - Orca
Motor - Trinity D4 13.5
Servo - KO Propo RSX Response or RSXOne (I run them) - Airtronics, Futaba
Battery - EA Motorsports, SMC, Orca
Charger - iCharger Duo 308/406
Power Supply - Muchmore (only one I've ever owned)
Tools - Hudy (gauges, wrenches, setup stations, etc.)
Fan - R1 Wurks
Bodies - Protoform Mazda Speed6 and LTCR

With the above, there is no blame to be put on the equipment, it's up to the driver from there.
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:57 PM   #34
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As recommended to me, i have already purchased a hobby wing V10 13.5 motor, hobby wing black 3.2 120 speedy so that can be one setup.
Will buy a LRP 13.T combo tonight and test that as well. ( what about mod rotors not sure what I do or dont need)

have some short caase brushless servos on there way .06 second ones
I run the LRP flow works and 13.5T X20, I find it awesome.

But I wouldn't bother buying one in your situation, your hobbywing combo is every bit as good - especially for 13.5 blinky.

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Some interesting comments here

here's my 2˘

If you've got the budget
Buy the best
Don't waste time with the rest

Since you've gone the Yokomo/Hwing route
Here's a build with those components from Atsuhi Hara
Copy this build, and you are off to a running start

I typically recommend the kit setup to start, work from there to suit your driving style, and track conditions
I agree if you've got the cash, do it. Running a top level car isn't going to be "harder" than an entry level one. But you will find the limits of huge entry level faster. If you run the best gear, at least you know the only problem between you and 1st is the nut behind the wheel (or sticks)

The Hara comparison is a good one too.

To complete his electronics picture, he runs a 4PKS-R and BLS551 servo (like mine ) and will most likely change to a 4PX soon enough you would expect. And protek (Amain house brand) lipo as well. They look to me to be rebadged IPs?

You could also copy Volker, he isn't too bad a steerer I hear but that would mean going blue everywhere like this guy (albeit a different chassis of course)




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nice one

thanks for the list will have a look at those items on line.

haven't heard of most of those items so thanks.
Orion and Muchmore you will see quite a bit in the HH Pits. I did see at least 2 guys running the D4 trinity motor as well.

Sanwa (or airtronics as it is labelled in the states) you will see filling about 8-9 out of 10 spots at most of the major TC meets!
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Lost in the supermarket...

Can't you just go on AMain and sort by highest price?
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I would consider the awesomatix too. It drives very differently from a regular touring car I felt. Don't get it though if you intend to race on a bumpy track.

I went for a bd7 to the awesomatix and I am extremely happy.
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thanks everyone for your posts very interesting information indeed.

i appreciate everyone's time and input.

found this after Cplus's reply and will give this a go. back to back testing one day will be fun to see if i can notice the difference in power / torque between the V10 and this so called " best motor ".

http://www.trinityrc.net/shop/index....product_id=678

at worst it will make no difference and i would have had some fun trying it out anyway. look rather interesting !
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I would consider the awesomatix too. It drives very differently from a regular touring car I felt. Don't get it though if you intend to race on a bumpy track.

I went for a bd7 to the awesomatix and I am extremely happy.
One of the guys at the track actually had one of these. He showed me through it and its an engineering masterpiece.

The only thing stopping me from trying one is that it is completely different design wise and I don't know anyone other than that one guy who has one. Getting support and help / tuning / tips may be a bit difficult. It had a fascinating shock design
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thanks everyone for your posts very interesting information indeed.

i appreciate everyone's time and input.

found this after Cplus's reply and will give this a go. back to back testing one day will be fun to see if i can notice the difference in power / torque between the V10 and this so called " best motor ".

http://www.trinityrc.net/shop/index....product_id=678

at worst it will make no difference and i would have had some fun trying it out anyway. look rather interesting !
Go for Fantoms works edition with pro select rotor if you want a maxed out D4!
Fantom motors and lipos have been doing wonders for me the last couple years.
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This is a good thread

I agree with your logic rcjetman, if you can afford and are willing to get the top stuff now, why waste time on budget stuff?

There is a hobby shop in Sydney called Walter rc hobby, last time I checked they have the sky rc corner weight thing in case you still want one.
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Go for Fantoms works edition with pro select rotor if you want a maxed out D4!
Fantom motors and lipos have been doing wonders for me the last couple years.
Thanks for the tip off.

Read a lot about the trinity and the Fantom. I liked the info and attention to detail Fantom has on their web page so i went with their motor.

Ordered the following to test out. Also got one of their “PRO 80-160 C packs “ to test against the others big name brands I have purchased as well…… we will see which brand is the best soon enough.

Thanks again everyone for your tips and leads this is precisely the type of thing I was looking for…. A motor with extra option and literature behind it as to why it should be better. Tinker and testing is the best fun I reckon.
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This is a good thread

I agree with your logic rcjetman, if you can afford and are willing to get the top stuff now, why waste time on budget stuff?

There is a hobby shop in Sydney called Walter rc hobby, last time I checked they have the sky rc corner weight thing in case you still want one.
Thanks, I hope it’s a fun thread for everyone.
It’s my logic , not everyone here has to agree with it but it makes sense to me….. and you.

Thanks for the tip. Looked them up but out of stock……. Not to worry just ordered one off ebay 5 mins ago out of Hong Kong .
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Setting the car up to handle with a safe feel is what I would do first.

When you are lapping consistently, then it's time to work on the setup more.

A safe car won't win races often, so that's when you need to jump in with both feet and work on making the car faster but not necessarily feeling so easy to drive.

Comparing your fastest lap time to others is a good way of seeing how much potential your car has.
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