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Old 06-24-2014, 09:12 AM   #1
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Default Kawada M500GT2R direct drive touring car

At last. Somebody took the concept of the F103GT and turned it into something serious.

http://www.redrc.net/2014/06/kawada-...e-touring-car/

Personally I really like the front dampening.
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I like it! Could make for a cheap way to get more beginners into the hobby.
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Coincidentally, I've been looking quite a bit at my F103GT lately, to see what could be improved (answer: most of the car -seriously). Once reasonably dialed, I had in mind to put a mild mod in it, just to teach myself some much needed throttle control. I guess instead of buying stuff for the F103, I'll start saving for this Kawada !
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I cannot wait for someone to try this and report back
Leveraging a TC tire form factor seems smart... But who know how well it will work
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Interesting car.

It'd be cool to see how it performs compared to a traditional touring car.
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Mid July

http://www.kawadamodel.co.jp/kit/m500/m5101.html
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Nice! Thanks. So much want with this kit for some reason.

I do remember that the F103 GT was quite a handful when I had mine. I resorted to foam tires and added some lead weights to lower the CG. That was the first time I learned just how much the weight of a body can affect a car.
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Do I see a damper for the front suspension on the video?
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Price is $341
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Do I see a damper for the front suspension on the video?
Here..http://www.kawadamodel.co.jp/kit/m500/ph_m5101_1.jpg
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I resorted to foam tires
I've seen many F103GT owners use foams and I have to say I never quite understood why. Kind of defeats the whole point of such a car IMHO. Basically what you end up with is a terrible WGT.

I think the F103GT has numerous flaws, and to make things worse, this kit was aimed at people who often had no clue about what they were doing. I'm under the impression that the class could be much more convincing with a better designed chassis, in the hands of good racers. The Yokomo GT500 class is proof a rubber pan car can be fun to race. Of course any DDTC will remain by design harder to drive than a 4WD or even a FWD TC, but it can be made to work for sure. I know when I tried it 2 or 3 years back, I managed to get a usable setup on asphalt with just a careful build and within a few battery packs. It sure wasn't as fast as I would have liked ( I seem to recall an annoying understeer at low speed, for instance) but you could drive it around a track easily, and that's with a close to box-stock car, just scratching the surface. (TBH my only incursion on carpet was much less convincing, but I just tried it for a few minutes before focusing back on my regular TC for that day.)

Anyway, back to the Kawada...
340$ + sure is steep when you can get a CRC WGT for less than 230 ! Let's hope the street price is lower when it's released.
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I have fond memories of my 103gt, once setup properly the car simply worked just about anywhere and was extremely durable. The only fender-ed car l liked more was the 103lm, the pillowey tires made a big difference on bumpier tracks.
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Where is anyone going to go with this? Can't run it in TC, or VTA, or USGT. The only chance anyone has to effectively use it is to start a new class. Yup. Another one. I guess since you WOULD have to make a new class then you could make it interesting. Or as a track director you could allow it into the other classes against 4WD TC, but I think it's severely disadvantaged. Maybe it would be ok in VTA. If it was legal.
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Price is $341
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Front damper design is actually pretty innovative. Though you can accomplish the same thing by lubing the kingpins. If this is a tc only, I'd personally.machine the kingpins with grooves for damper lube and use a longer pin and steerin block.
I should think a rear toe adjustment would also be needed to get traction with rubber tires but neat looking car.
Way too much money if $341 is to be belived though.
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