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Old 04-20-2014, 06:31 AM   #16
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i ended up with those settings based on a schumacher driver that ran the v10 motor and he was using a hw 3.1 with 30 boost and 39 turbo,so i already thought i was being conservative
U still haven't said ur fdr.

U CANNOT use settings from someone not using the Lrp motor, it's a different kettle of fish as I've said already.

Start with 20 25 and 7.0-7.1 fdr.

As dale says temp and traction play factors if u feel it start loosing performance, STOP....
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Try 30 deg of boost and 15 deg of turbo 8:1 FDR and run the car for 2 minutes and check the temp. I run my 13.5T with boost tuned for maximum performance and it comes of the track after 6 minutes at 65 - 70 deg C.

Also set the turbo delay to 0.0 or 0.05, it will be a lot easier to drive.
With 8 fdr, I think your motor is like to rev. I'm running teampower plutonium 13,5T with 5,5 to 5,9 fdr
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U still haven't said ur fdr.

U CANNOT use settings from someone not using the Lrp motor, it's a different kettle of fish as I've said already.

Start with 20 25 and 7.0-7.1 fdr.

As dale says temp and traction play factors if u feel it start loosing performance, STOP....
your not reading it right,im using a hw v10 13.5 and not the lrp,i had to get another motor for the clubmans from nick and he only had the hw hence why im aking for advice on timing as its a new motor and more like the gm than an lrp,my fdr was 6.1 and i think i had it right for wlrc but as im back to amcc i just cant afford to blow another motor,so ive now gone to the default settings and will work from there,boost 32 and turbo 12 sticking with the 6.1 fdr and 30 on the can
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:28 PM   #19
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Rotors are available separately, part no 50635, so you can fix them.
cheers dale,but thats the wrong part no,thats for the x12 the x20 is 50640,but thanks for putting me onto it,when i looked before all i could find was the works rotor which makes a stock illegal brca wise,ill have 3 almost new x20's for sale soon

ps i was told by nick(demon) that he spoke to jamie booth and was told that there wernt any available,nicks on the case in the morning to try and get some
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With 8 fdr, I think your motor is like to rev. I'm running teampower plutonium 13,5T with 5,5 to 5,9 fdr
Suggested starting point for someone who has over heated 3 motors.

Extremely common for racers to over gear when using boost.
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Here's my to cents, we run on a super loose outdoor asphalt track with a long straight but a tight infield, with the 13.5 and various motors I have settled on some basics, gearing around the 6 FDR mark you can play around this mark depending on track size, boost at around 40-45deg, starting around the 3-4500 rpm range, finishing around the 20k rpm mark, Turbo between 10-15deg at full throttle with a 0.1sec delay and just a soft slope, if you start with the lower side of the fence and just check temps you should be all good to add a little bit here and there, my motor timing is usually set at factory, and I use gearing instead, as it is easy to go toooooo farrrrr when tweaking timing for boosted setups with the endbell. So have a flick with that, like I said depending on track size do some little tweaks. My current settings are 45 boost, 15 turbo with a fdr of 5.9, and thats with a thunder power Z3R with standard rotor, but is a bit of a standard setup that I run.
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Here's my to cents, we run on a super loose outdoor asphalt track with a long straight but a tight infield, with the 13.5 and various motors I have settled on some basics, gearing around the 6 FDR mark you can play around this mark depending on track size, boost at around 40-45deg, starting around the 3-4500 rpm range, finishing around the 20k rpm mark, Turbo between 10-15deg at full throttle with a 0.1sec delay and just a soft slope, if you start with the lower side of the fence and just check temps you should be all good to add a little bit here and there, my motor timing is usually set at factory, and I use gearing instead, as it is easy to go toooooo farrrrr when tweaking timing for boosted setups with the endbell. So have a flick with that, like I said depending on track size do some little tweaks. My current settings are 45 boost, 15 turbo with a fdr of 5.9, and thats with a thunder power Z3R with standard rotor, but is a bit of a standard setup that I run.


Pretty much exactly what I said right at the beginning of the thread
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well glad to say i had a good test today and found enough speed with the temps coming off at 50c after 6 mins,so i might go up another tooth,but ill wait now to put it up against the other cars,ran alongside my sons car running a gm and we are only 1 tooth apart and we both got faster lap times by the end of the day
gm race,can timing 25,boost 40,turbo 20 and temps of 60c after 5 mins 26/84
hw v10,can timing 30(factory) boost 35 turbo 22 temps 50c after 5/6 mins 27/84
hw pulls a bit more towards the end of the straight,this tells me the gearing should be the same and possibly a 28t,but ill check to see if i lose infield acceleration and gain too much heat
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Don't gear up.

Reduce the can timing by 5 degs and increase the boost by 10.

Are you running a logger? If so what is the max RPM you are seeing on the track?
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well glad to say i had a good test today and found enough speed with the temps coming off at 50c after 6 mins,so i might go up another tooth,but ill wait now to put it up against the other cars,ran alongside my sons car running a gm and we are only 1 tooth apart and we both got faster lap times by the end of the day
gm race,can timing 25,boost 40,turbo 20 and temps of 60c after 5 mins 26/84
hw v10,can timing 30(factory) boost 35 turbo 22 temps 50c after 5/6 mins 27/84
hw pulls a bit more towards the end of the straight,this tells me the gearing should be the same and possibly a 28t,but ill check to see if i lose infield acceleration and gain too much heat
good to hear, i think you almost done, 27/84 is it fdr of 5.9? i think you can still gear up giving more stress on the battery, and i guessed you can lowering your boost a lot, without sacrificing anything, only the temp will go down
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good to hear, i think you almost done, 27/84 is it fdr of 5.9? i think you can still gear up giving more stress on the battery, and i guessed you can lowering your boost a lot, without sacrificing anything, only the temp will go down
Why do this? The temp is well below what I would consider maximum. Those motors are good up to 70 or even 80 degrees!

I would leave the gearing where it is and go up another 5 degrees on the boost, perhaps also slightly on the turbo as well if the other guy is pulling you on the straight. Check the temp, if its around the 60 mark then you can consider ONE tooth on the pinion.
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Why do this? The temp is well below what I would consider maximum. Those motors are good up to 70 or even 80 degrees!
yes, currently the temp is well below, but with lowering boost, you can save this for trial another 1 or 2 teeth gear up, and for higher turbo.
just get the sweet spot on the lowest boost setting
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Are you being serious or sarcastic??

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good to hear, i think you almost done, 27/84 is it fdr of 5.9? i think you can still gear up giving more stress on the battery, and i guessed you can lowering your boost a lot, without sacrificing anything, only the temp will go down
correct ,its 5.91 and a 28 makes it 5.70
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Why do this? The temp is well below what I would consider maximum. Those motors are good up to 70 or even 80 degrees!

I would leave the gearing where it is and go up another 5 degrees on the boost, perhaps also slightly on the turbo as well if the other guy is pulling you on the straight. Check the temp, if its around the 60 mark then you can consider ONE tooth on the pinion.
they can go to 200f,i still dont know what that is in celsius but im told 100c should be fine,but i dont want to even get close if i can,i think ive found the gearing for the summer when it warms up but for now im planning to just go up a tooth and see where im at temp wise,the car feels plenty fast enough but only track time with others will tell,but ill also try your suggestion and see what that does,thanks


ok converted f to c and came back with 93 degrees c so i deffinatly wont be going over 80c
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