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Old 12-12-2003, 02:08 PM   #1171
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i meant to say final drive ratio

thanx for the info


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Old 12-15-2003, 09:35 PM   #1172
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Has anyone tried a red/purple spring combo on the monster or is red/red the way to go.
The track is a Full 96' X 52' flat road course
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Old 12-15-2003, 09:50 PM   #1174
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I'm getting the new binary stock motor this week and was wondering, what I can do to break it? Somebody told me to true it up first and use tribo to break it? What spring combo do suggest for offroad?
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:27 AM   #1175
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Birdy... where are you? How about if you ask your question here?


As I said before... your question could be debated indefintely...

My personal opion is look at the 32 and 38 amp step numbers, choose the the motor with the highest power numbers at those two points.
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Old 12-18-2003, 08:20 PM   #1176
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I am currently running a monster stock w lock timing (24 deg). What are the + and - of changing the timing as we have a race next month allowing for this mod to be done to any 27 turn stock motor?
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Old 12-18-2003, 08:48 PM   #1177
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Default 27 turn outlaw stock motors

another thing is that if anyone knows of any commercially available 27 turn outlaw stock motors in the market. Needing to find out where to get them and what is the difference with the approved stock motors (monsters, P2k2) (spec and speed)

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Old 12-18-2003, 08:52 PM   #1178
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I am currently running a monster stock w lock timing (24 deg). What are the + and - of changing the timing as we have a race next month allowing for this mod to be done to any 27 turn stock motor?
I couldn't tell you exactly but I believe this quesion will best be answered at www.rccars.com

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Old 12-19-2003, 03:20 AM   #1179
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More timing will give more power, at the expense of efficiency. Go too far with the timing and you'll start losing power again.

Back in the day, stocks ran with 36 degree timing. I have no idea whether that setting would still work on current stocks which have been designed around 24degree timing.
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Old 12-19-2003, 05:52 PM   #1180
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I don't think you would be able to change the timing on a monster, due to the flat spots on the can/endbell
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Old 12-20-2003, 07:41 AM   #1181
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I beleive Todd Putnam is selling the Epic 'outlaw' motors, and he is one of a handfull of motor tuners I would endorse.


It'd be hard to change the timing on a EPIC stock motor, and/or their outlaw.. You may be able to crank the come a tiny bit, but not likely enough to matter.


Reedy stockers you can easily cut the timing lock on the endbell and change the timing. However I don't think they will run any better at higher timing, but maybe... a MVP with narrowed burshes and cranked to 36 degrees or so, might run well... I've not really played with it too much.

Typialy you loose some peak power but gain more power at higher RPM and get better overall proformance useing a smaller pinon, when you crank the timing up from 24 to 36 or so.
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Old 12-26-2003, 01:59 PM   #1182
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Hey everyone, I race on a very tight carpet track. Can someone please tell me what motor has the most low end torque? And what are some tricks( brush types, spring combos, ect.) to get more low end torque out of the motor? Thanks for the answers.
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Old 12-26-2003, 03:28 PM   #1183
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I'd suggest running one of the following.

P2k
p2k2
Mvp
Core stock

If you want to run a monster or a motor that is rpm based in a torque application you can put on hard springs, say purple + and red -, but the wear and tear on the brushes and springs will be worse.
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Old 12-27-2003, 06:09 PM   #1185
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Omar, where is that track at? I race down here in VaBeach. I may want to make the drive up there to race. rob
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