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Old 05-24-2004, 10:56 PM   #1531
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I've never gunned my monster but I'd say try and keep it below 150*f. The magnets in the monsters don't take very well to heat so the cooler you keep your motor the better it will run. As long as you have the right gearing for your track you should be ok.

For Motors such as the core stock or the Mvp normal temps after a hard run(race pace) are around 160-170*f.
Thnx 'll keep that in mind.
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Immediately after an outdoor run in approximately 70*F temps, my Monster Pro typically ends up being 145-150*F on the bottom side and 165-170*F on the top of the can. I average this out as 155-160*F. When I have taken motor temps on multiple Monsters, they have always been about 20*F warmer on the top side of the motor than the bottom. Hmmm...Good reason for a fan on top, eh!

Not saying that these numbers are good; but, I haven't trashed any motors due to heat issues.
Thanks for posting bill.

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Old 05-25-2004, 09:03 PM   #1533
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anyone know when trinity will go to a better grade of magnet in there motors like the kind the MVP uses?
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Old 05-25-2004, 09:32 PM   #1534
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I hear Trinity actually uses a higher power magnet but it is much more sensitive to what typically happens to a motor than anyone else's mags...
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Old 05-26-2004, 11:28 PM   #1535
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Did some testing with my monster stock, purple/purple springs and trinity 4505 cross cuts today and compared them back to back with 767's and red/green springs. Comm was cut before each test and the motor was run in till both brushes had full wear across the brush face.

The purple/purple and 4505 combo gave more snap out of the corners and slightly quicker top-end. As was expected. After the run I put it on a friends pulsar comp at 3v and it was pulling 6.5 amps(after a 5min run). The serrations were almost gone and two light passes cleaned up the comm. The brushes are in better condition then I thought they'd be, very very slight dis-colouration around the contact end of the brush but the brush face looks fine. Motor temp after the run was as expected, hotter then usual.

I ran in some putnam green brushes but I ran out of time to run them. On the weekend I'll run the putnam green/green with purples spings back to back with the 4505's and purple springs and see if there is a distinct difference. I'll also check the amp draw of the putnams after one run so I can compare them.

On another note I checked the amp draw of the frankenstien stocker I posted a few weeks ago, mvp can, p2k2 arm, 36* timing, ball bearings, stand-up hoods with quaser brushes. At 3v it is pulling 7 amps. On the track against an 11t mod mod it keeps up on the in-field and half way down the straight and then whipped due to lack of rpm. Should work ok for 19t though.

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Thanks for posting bill.

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Do you think an air duct would work. I race off road truck and buggy and could easily put an intake somewhere on the car, do you think it would help any?
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I think it would...'cos Masami put an air scoop in his car too.
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Okay, I have to get this settled.

What is the best company for tuned stock electric motors? Is it a large company like Trinity or Orion, or a smaller company?

And what motor would be good for a short to medium length track with many hairpin turns and some longer straights?
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Okay, I have to get this settled.

What is the best company for tuned stock electric motors? Is it a large company like Trinity or Orion, or a smaller company?

And what motor would be good for a short to medium length track with many hairpin turns and some longer straights?
Just going to get a bunch of biased opinions...He, he...More fun to tune one yourself.
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Well, I'll take those opinions, no matter how far off, because my budget won't allow me to tune my own.
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Well, I'll take those opinions, no matter how far off, because my budget won't allow me to tune my own.
Just check out what the fast guys at your local track are running. Most of the top tuners paradigm, axiom, team 1, birdman........ all make fast motors so you really can't go wrong.
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Well, I'll take those opinions, no matter how far off, because my budget won't allow me to tune my own.
I know what you mean bro....

Small company IMO....Trinity likes to sell "dud" monsters

BTW: XXX-S Bill, I'll be at the next RCCAR meet Do they have a 19t TC class?
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Guys. Need some help here.

What motor is recommended for an endurace race?
There will be a race where the 1st car to reach 400laps is considered the winner.
So what motor will be a better bet on a race like this?
For ref, mod and stock diff is only 1 lap in a 5 min race.
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Old 05-28-2004, 09:15 AM   #1545
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A 19t would be ideal

Same runtime as stock but loads better
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