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Old 10-19-2005, 03:00 PM   #301
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I like that one For the right amount of money, or hot blonde I'll overlook just about everything

Ohhh, so you're one of those ROAR guys who accepts "gifts" in exchange for "gifts"?
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:04 PM   #302
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I'm not sure if this was mentioned but is 1/12 tires part of the lower cost campaign?

the reason I asked is because I went to http://www.jacoracing.net/ and their prices were still in the $22 ballpark which is right one with TRC.

Any infor would be great.
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The prices on the 1/12 have also been reduced. The website is a little behind the times.
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:04 PM   #303
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Ohhh, so you're one of those ROAR guys who accepts "gifts" in exchange for "gifts"?
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:10 PM   #304
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I am not anti-ROAR, but the brushed motors running with the brushless is an absolute travesty. I like how everyone obsesses about my tires, yet you are allowed to run whatever you want for motors. Priorities people!
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:15 PM   #305
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Maybe a little off the main thrust of this topic...

...but can anyone tell me the diameter that the Jaco 28mm touring foams are trued to out of the packet please? Trying to calculate the tyre wear from this evenings practice session, and forgot to measure the tyres before the start.

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Old 10-19-2005, 03:19 PM   #306
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I think about 64mm???????
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:20 PM   #307
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A non-profit can still make money.....

And it can pay its officers and employees reasonable rates......

ROAR needs to get out of the stone age and pay some people......I am tired of listening to the "I am a volunteer" excuse.......

ROAR is needed......but it also needs some work.

And I am sorry, if Mr. Bill is gonna use ROAR rules, then he should sanction the race and enforce ALL of the rules....

One day, ROAR will realize they can prevent races from using their rules without permission......

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Old 10-19-2005, 03:28 PM   #308
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The only problem with that scenario is the potential for questionable objectivity, If Major Manufacturer X sends a rep to help oversee an event and Little Fish Y has a driver who does extremely well, but could potentially be violating the rules, the rep brings a lot of heat down on MMX if the rep brings it up. LFY can't afford to send a rep so they cry foul, and then the arguments ensue. If the manufactures all make a contribution to ROAR, and ROAR appoints the officials, the issue is bypassed entirely.
On a serious note, most domestic manufacturers send a number of employees / team members to these high profile event anyway. So why not help. It would not cost them any more $$$ to to assist in overseeing in the technicial department...besides they are probably more familiar with what legal and whats not...

just imagine having a committee of 5 different guys from various manufacturers at a national event available to interpret an official ruling.

Also, I doubt a major manufacturer wants to tarnish its reputation by inappropriately cracking down on Little Fish Y. The internet makes sure of this.

Sorry we seemed to get off the basis of the threads disscussion...the ruling by Mr. Bill is 100%, as favorable or unfavorable it may seem. He is afforded this discretion as he is the race director, plan and simple...

the ROAR rule relating to section 7.3.1.2 is unclear because during the time in which it was written, a "wrap" style foam tire was unavailable. Arguments can be made on both sides. This topic should have surfaced and been resolved when the tires were introduced. At least Mr. Bill was gentlemen enough to post his decision early on and Jack has been very professional in his responses, especially yesterday's post

The conclusion in my opinion, are the rules need to be re-evaluated as products evolve...
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I am not anti-ROAR, but the brushed motors running with the brushless is an absolute travesty. I like how everyone obsesses about my tires, yet you are allowed to run whatever you want for motors. Priorities people!
I agree, that was a bad call on ROAR's part
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Well since this is the Jaco thread.

I thought I'd ask a Jaco question LOL

what compound 2 stage tires were you running in vegas Peter? I guess jack or peter could answer that.

The reason I'm asking is that double pink 12th rears don't exactly make the best stock 12th tire and that is all that I was aware that jaco made in a 2-stage 12th production tire. ???

I know the purple 2 stage fronts would be fine.

Is there a possibility that jaco will make grey or white 2 stage tires for 12th in the future?

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Are the 2 stage 1/10 pan car tires available yet? Specifically for oval.
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We tested whites and grays, but found that at 4 minutes the traction compound "burned" off the tires since there was very little racing rubber on the wheel. The double pinks heat up as the run progresses and don't lose traction. I am not sure what Pete used in Vegas. He will have to answer that.

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Are the 2 stage 1/10 pan car tires available yet? Specifically for oval.
No.
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We tested whites and grays, but found that at 4 minutes the compound "burned" off the tires since there was very little racing rubber on the wheel. The double pinks heat up as the run progresses and don't lose traction. I am not sure what Pete used in Vegas. He will have to answer that.
Thanks Jack I was wondering that as well.

I have tried the 2 stage rears on 12th and they worked well in mod, but I always had a push in stock with them so I ran traditional white rears and purple fronts in Vegas.

Hopefully peter can let me know what he ran for rears at vegas.

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Old 10-19-2005, 04:48 PM   #315
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Just wondering if some of the guys I was running against were running them. Are there any plans for them? Considering how low we run the tires (down to 2.12 in the front), I don't know if it would be worth it or even possible.
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