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Old 03-03-2014, 09:20 AM   #91
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where are you getting the car for $700, the evo is 910 usd and with the conversion will cost 1070 here in canada, so please let me know where they are for $700 that is a great deal for one of these thanks
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I object to your use of the word 'missile' when referring to 21.5 blinky.
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It is expensive. Other companies could produce similar designs for cheaper. Maybe they will. Schumacher kinda half-way tried to copy and screwed it up badly.

For what it's worth, that price includes front ECS, all sway bars, no need for springs, no need for a front gear diff to work right, no need for white belts. You would spend over $700 to bring a T4'14 up to a similar spec which almost any serious racer will do.
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I object to your use of the word 'missile' when referring to 21.5 blinky.
Those are 25.5 missiles
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Old 03-03-2014, 01:05 PM   #95
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Well, on the weekend I learned that one quarter turn of a wrench on any touring car can make or break you. I had a fast but new car (VBC Wildfire D06) with only a couple runs on it previous to the local championships. I chose the VBC because I knew I needed a car that I could quickly and intuitively adjust in the heat of battle. It was very enjoyable to make changes so easily and pilot a competitive car.

I like the design of the Matix but earlier this season when I got a close look at it and saw a very fast, very experienced racer struggle to tune the car I decided right then and there it was the wrong choice for me. It seems to me that there is room in the market for a simplified reverse engineered version of this car. I don’t think any of the currently available and affordable shaft drive chassis are better than a standard belt car so hopefully some manufacture will respond with another option.
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Well, on the weekend I learned that one quarter turn of a wrench on any touring car can make or break you. I had a fast but new car (VBC Wildfire D06) with only a couple runs on it previous to the local championships. I chose the VBC because I knew I needed a car that I could quickly and intuitively adjust in the heat of battle. It was very enjoyable to make changes so easily and pilot a competitive car.

I like the design of the Matix but earlier this season when I got a close look at it and saw a very fast, very experienced racer struggle to tune the car I decided right then and there it was the wrong choice for me. It seems to me that there is room in the market for a simplified reverse engineered version of this car. I donít think any of the currently available and affordable shaft drive chassis are better than a standard belt car so hopefully some manufacture will respond with another option.
Perhaps the problem is that a reverse engineered car that is a cheaper version would essentially end up being just another shaft drive car, and as you've said, the other available cars are no better than the belt cars, and I must confess that although the Awesomatix looks good on track (and a work of art under the skin), I don't think it's the be all and end all.
I certainly don't hear of any drivers 'fearing' them in competition.

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Perhaps the problem is that a reverse engineered car that is a cheaper version would essentially end up being just another shaft drive car, and as you've said, the other available cars are no better than the belt cars, and I must confess that although the Awesomatix looks good on track (and a work of art under the skin), I don't think it's the be all and end all.
I certainly don't hear of any drivers 'fearing' them in competition.

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Some of the top non-awesomatic drivers at ROAR Carpet Nats this past weekend had tones of fear.

I know people have there reservations about the Awesomatix but until you've owned one and worked with it to find a setup for your driving style you don't know how much faster you can be. My son Kyle just won a ROAR National title in 17.5 TC this past weekend and I took second, both of us are running the A700. We ran against last years Snowbirds and IIC 17.5 champion and some other very good drivers as well. I know for a fact this would not have happened if we were using another car, as we are usually B and C main drivers.
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Come to the dark side my son and feel the power.

Some of the top non-awesomatic drivers at ROAR Carpet Nats this past weekend had tones of fear.

I know people have there reservations about the Awesomatix but until you've owned one and worked with it to find a setup for your driving style you don't know how much faster you can be. My son Kyle just won a ROAR National title in 17.5 TC this past weekend and I took second, both of us are running the A700. We ran against last years Snowbirds and IIC 17.5 champion and some other very good drivers as well. I know for a fact this would not have happened if we were using another car, as we are usually B and C main drivers.
Congratulations to you and Kyle first of all!

You bring up a good point as well; there may or may not be ONE chassis to rule them all, but you sure do need to find the one that best suits you if you want to compete at big races.
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All this "it's about the driver" doesn't really apply when you've got guys that have made the A main at large events with other cars immediately go significantly faster with the new car. It completely removes that from the equation.
Nope. Last week at an asphalt race in Florida:

Mark Burt former ROAR Stock National Champion (2010 maybe?) - Awesomatix
Cory Parsons Current ROAR National Champion - Xray T14
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Austin TQd 17.5 with 418, Cory won with X-Ray. Mark Burt in second.
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I have always said to myself, when it wins a big mod title, I will consider it.

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Old 03-03-2014, 02:58 PM   #103
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It seems to me that there is room in the market for a simplified reverse engineered version of this car. I don’t think any of the currently available and affordable shaft drive chassis are better than a standard belt car so hopefully some manufacture will respond with another option.
It pains me to say this, and I hope I'm wrong, but I think the first company to do this successfully is going to sell a giant pile of cars, especially if they're priced more like a traditional sedan.
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The Awesomatix is pretty impressive to me. I have seen some very good improvement out of racers who switched. One guy went from an Evo5 shaft car to the Awesomatix, so it's not just the shaft.

I just wonder if the price point holds back it's popularity.
I'd say without question. It's just too much for most guys out there, and you don't see used ones pop up very often.
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:06 PM   #105
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Tamiya EVO 6??? I am sure someone was close to releasing a new carbon fiber chassis shaft car, but then Oleg came out with the FFG and they were like OH DAMN IT, back to the drawing board. Push back the release date...

The only other shaft car with gear diffs and a lipo chassis was the EVO 5 with the limited addition Exotek chassis. I owned that and now the awesom-o. I have had more "success" with team vodka.

BTW I just noticed the guy robk was talking about might have been me... LOL
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