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Old 01-04-2014, 06:29 PM   #16
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Xray take some beating, ball cups are about as good as they get, I've never replaced any plasic parts due to slop other than out drives, bearings need replacing now and again as do cvj's.

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Old 01-04-2014, 09:24 PM   #17
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Another vote for VBC d06.
VBC Racing Wildfire D06 gets my vote as well.

It may not be the most popular car yet, but it builds and runs extremely well.
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Old 01-05-2014, 03:20 AM   #18
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The answer to the OP is the awesomatix. I don't think anyone who has examined one of these cars would doubt this.

However I tend to agree with many of the comments here on this thread. Taking out all the slack is the wrong direction to be going in. These cars definitely handle better, lap more consistently and also in my opinion are faster with some slop in them. It took me a long time to accept this.

On the OP's suggestion that the benefits of the setup station are negated by the slack, its not really, the important thing is to make the setup process a ritual, done the same way, in the same order every time. Which is I guess where the OCD comes in.

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Not sure I agree that slop is a good thing but suspension that doesn't bind certainly is.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:09 AM   #20
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The newer Serpent kits are a better plastic. My ERYX has stayed nice and tight with very little slop. Best I've experienced although haven't tried an Xray since the T1FK!
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Hobao H4e has the least amount of slop I have ever seen in a TC car.
Fastest guy at our carpet track been running it for months and the thing is still slop free
No where the strength of a xray or serpent but it is very fast.
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Hobao H4e has the least amount of slop I have ever seen in a TC car.
Fastest guy at our carpet track been running it for months and the thing is still slop free
No where the strength of a xray or serpent but it is very fast.
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Perhaps the question should be what car stays slop free for the longest time.
My Xrays were disappointingly sloppy after a year or 2.
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ARC R10 gets my vote. It's right up there with the X-RAYS.
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ARC R10 gets my vote. It's right up there with the X-RAYS.
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Awesomatix, and...... I haven't had to change shock oil ever......
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ARC R10. The last similar minimal slop experience I've had was with the Xray T2009.

I don't necessarily agree with the notion that slop makes a car better to drive however those with experience racing Tamiya M Chassis will not disagree with that, like me. Lets just agree to disagree lol...
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I'm still fairly new to these touring cars, however I can tell you that I've had 4 different cars within the past several months (all kits I have built new). There are several cars that I've owned/raced, also held in my hands that offer very little slop.

* AE TC6 and the 6.1 Worlds have lots of slop **** Certain the 6.2 is the same way as the plastics have not been re-designed****
* VBC Wildfire "Version 2" plastics (Quality)
* Serpent ERYX 2.0 (Steering Rack issues)
* Xray T4 2014 (Quality) which I'm currently racing and have ran at least 100 packs through and the car has the same fit/finish since new build

The following kits I have held and examined in detail (for slop and fit/finish) also made some laps with from fellow racers allowing me the privilege to take some laps with there car

* YOKOMO BD7 (Quality)
* AWESOMATIX (Quality)
* ARC (Quality)

All these kits mentioned above I have owned and raced, or examined in detail also drove. If your looking for a TC racer for less slop, fit/finish and an all around great car. Look at the DO6 Wildfire, 2014 T4. If money isn't a concern, rock out the YOKOMO or the new AWESOMATIX. If you want something to constantly work on to find a decent set - up and find ways to improve fit/finish design buy the AE car or the OFNO H4e. However I really can't say much about the new 6.2 AE car as I haven't had one in my grubby little paws, but as mentioned above the (Caster Blocks, Steering Blocks, Rear Uprights, Suspension Arms) are the same as the 6.1 and the 6.1 worlds which have mass play and I've built both new and raced both.

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Old 01-08-2014, 08:52 PM   #29
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If you get the hard plastic parts with added carbon they tend to stay slop free for longer


This is for all cars
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