R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-08-2002, 03:47 PM   #16
Moderator
 
StephenSobottka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 3,267
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to StephenSobottka
Default

Guys i vote for no one ways ne where. Real cars dont have them so why should rc be allowed to run them. And these cars are based on the 1/10 scale of real things. The diff also allows drivers who cant master the one way to drive. It just allows alot better racing all around. And yes u will get killed if u run a one way with foam.
__________________
~~Stephen Sobottka~~
SMC Racing
StephenSobottka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2002, 04:51 PM   #17
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 298
Default

One more thing to remember. As innovative as R/C people are....what did they do WITHOUT the one way? Lock the diff!!!

So, no one way, no locked diffs, no clickers.......if one goes, so does the other!

Oh....and where is the TV remote?
acloco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2002, 07:04 PM   #18
Tech Master
 
Alvin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Singapore, Jurong East
Posts: 1,654
Default

Guys,
I'm curious as to why one-ways are more suited to rubber. Won't the additional traction be even better for one-way usage?

Oh btw, I never tried setting up the car on foams, only ran one pack on a set of loaned frewers'

About why 1:1 scale cars not having one-way, will a full size one-way bearing handle the stress of 1:1 scale touring cars? Also, don't cars like (I could be mistaken - i am NOT a car nut lol) Skylines rear wheel drive for the most part and 4wd engages only at certain corners

Thanks.

~Alvin

PS: Would hate to run 4wd. Twice the maintenance if you get what I mean
Alvin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2002, 08:07 PM   #19
Tech Regular
 
Kyew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Singapore
Posts: 461
Default

drivers shld be free to choose whether to use a one way or not.
let's not use 'realism' as a factor in determining whether they shld be allowed.
Kyew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2002, 10:44 PM   #20
Tech Elite
 
JimmyMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NC
Posts: 4,443
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Realism is the dumbest excuse I've seen used. We can't base realism on these cars. If so, then lets just ban electric sedans altogether and race Nitro!! Let's make all Electric Sedans Front engine!! Derrrr I Runt!!!!!!!

Sheesshhhh. As for running Foams and Oneways. I do. Works great on asphalt. Maybe you are talking about Foams on Carpet with Oneways. Not just oneways with Foams period. My laps increased by .5 a lap goin from Rubbers to Foams.

I don't know and don't care. I'm a Roar member and if there is a vote on it... I'll vote to keep oneways. If we can't... I'll just go to locked diff.......
JimmyMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 02:50 AM   #21
Tech Master
 
Xpress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Dirt sucks!
Posts: 1,614
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Down with ROAR, up with the USTC!
Xpress is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 03:25 AM   #22
Tech Regular
 
rcdougie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Stuart, FL
Posts: 489
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

How about a seperate one way class and a regular class. That way everyone is happy!
rcdougie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 03:27 AM   #23
Tech Master
 
Sigearhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Northern Kentucky
Posts: 1,815
Trader Rating: 68 (100%+)
Default

KilRuf: Yes, for the most part I am speaking of running oneways on carpet with foams. From my experience they're not great on asphalt with foams either.

Alvin: I don't know for a fact but I'm only theorizing, with rubbers what you always hear is people complaining that they don't have enough steering when running dual diffs, with a oneway you get the desired steering but it takes more finesse in driving and you can't drive as deep into the corners, you have to roll the car through corners. With foams on carpet, and mostly when you run carpet you run on a smaller track than what you normally would run outside in order to be fast you have to drive much deeper into the corners and oneways do not allow you to do that thus slowing you down.
Sigearhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 04:12 AM   #24
Tech Master
 
Alvin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Singapore, Jurong East
Posts: 1,654
Default

Sigearhead: mmm from my "experience" 4WD gives the best amount of steering in low speed situations like hairpins, and slow corners, tight corners etc. In high speed sweepers, corners,schicanes the i feel the front one way will give more steering.

My theory is in high speed the front diff (possibly) unloads due to the cornering force, so you lose traction on front end when it unloads -> high speed cornering sucks. But when in high speed corner, a car with a front one way will not mind the front inner wheel unloading since the torque is split between both wheels. Low speed wise, it loses out to a 4wd vehicle simply, my best guess, no diff action

EDIT: This is what I can feel based on running rubber tires. I have no idea how it feels on foams though.
Alvin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 01:43 PM   #25
wyd
Tech Legend
 
wyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Castle Mamba Max Pro. Feel its power!!!!!!!!!!
Posts: 21,143
Trader Rating: 50 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to wyd
Default

Alot of people like the realism of touring. Most of the asphalt tracks I have near me run rubber tires and the excuse is they are more like real racing. I personally like foams so I just go to places that you can run foam.

One ways or not the guys that are fast will still remain to be fast. It might help clean up racing a little but it is no way going to stop people from running up your rear. The guys that do it with one ways will just do it with diffs.

Now I did talk with a guy that siad a locked front diff setup is being made by IRS for the TC3. It is suppose to make you corner faster but more forgiving than a one way.
wyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 05:51 PM   #26
Tech Master
 
psycho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
Posts: 1,520
Default

Reedy decided to require diffs after all the uproar over hacking at the Carpet Nat's in Stockton this year. Some guys were blaming their hacking on the front one-ways and having "no brakes." IMO, this is why he banned one-ways at the Reedy race. The talk about outbraking was simply a marketing speech, again, IMO.
psycho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 06:02 PM   #27
Tech Champion
 
STLNLST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 9,000
Trader Rating: 21 (100%+)
Default

the driving wasn't any cleaner at the Reedy than the carpet nats. IMO it's a POOR excuse to use full time diffs as an example of cleaner racing. The braking at the end of the straightaway made for some exciting passes but that was it. I saw people getting punted from behind with diffs. No matter what we run there are going to be guys that can't control their cars. There will always be short cuts arond the rules. One ways were banned.......along came locked front diffs. Take away something else then there will be something simular to take it's place. This is just my opinion.
__________________
REMEMBER THE GOOD OLE DAYS..........THEY'RE NEVER COMING BACK SO WE'RE STUCK WITH THE MESS IN FRONT OF US!!!!
STLNLST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 06:31 PM   #28
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 18
Default

I'm confused, you guys seem to be saying that 4wd is can go deeper into corners but the one way drivers are hitting you from behind.
In my opinion, one ways should be allowed at the higher levels of racing but banned from novice classes and lower club racing, even if just to get the cost of racing down.
Godzilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 08:28 PM   #29
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 298
Default

psycho...you are right.

The hacking that went on...was just that...hacking.

There were a couple of times when the "two turn rule" was used....that being....when qualifying or racing.......let the faster car by!!!! If not......you got the punt.

I was there.....and saw quite a bit of it. IMO, there should actually be a different mod champion. One of those triples was....um.....well........UUUUUGLY!!!
acloco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2002, 08:55 PM   #30
Tech Champion
 
STLNLST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 9,000
Trader Rating: 21 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Godzilla
I'm confused, you guys seem to be saying that 4wd is can go deeper into corners but the one way drivers are hitting you from behind.
In my opinion, one ways should be allowed at the higher levels of racing but banned from novice classes and lower club racing, even if just to get the cost of racing down.
Even with a diff there are low speed corners that you must slow down for that some people don't slow down for diff or not. A diff car can go deeper into a corner on power and then hit the breaks and make the turn where a oneway car will have to let off sooner to make the same turn. If you have experience with a oneway you'll know what I'm talking about.
__________________
REMEMBER THE GOOD OLE DAYS..........THEY'RE NEVER COMING BACK SO WE'RE STUCK WITH THE MESS IN FRONT OF US!!!!
STLNLST is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New GP 3300 SP.....FACT OR FICTION EddieO Electric On-Road 37 11-16-2011 10:01 AM
Davinci Code Fact or Fiction Stealthy Ninja R/C Racers 4 Christ 36 04-23-2005 12:59 AM
E-Town racing fact or fiction? Trips Electric On-Road 7 04-16-2005 06:30 PM
Battery Voltage Increasing? FACT OR FICTION? EddieO Electric On-Road 3 10-17-2003 09:26 PM
O'Donnell RB's.... fact or fiction? Corse-R Nitro On-Road 6 02-07-2003 10:49 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 09:48 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net