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Old 12-06-2013, 05:18 PM   #16
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Lowering CG is good pro, but somebody tell me of short shocks has no advantage on running tight layout and low grip like our track.
If this is real, i am looking to convert my T4 using long shock mount in order have better handling.
Even keep the short shock but using 3 holes instead of 4 holes pistons.

Could somebody think if really worth?

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I'd experiment with changing the oil, spring rates, and bladders to adjust the dampening response before relocating the shock mounting points and changing the shock size, volume, and geometry. Dialing in dampening is one of the most difficult aspects of setting up an RC car, and learning how and when to make the changes takes a long time to learn.

If your running on a tight, bumpy surface, I'd try lighter oil and lighter springs to allow the tires to stay on the pavement. As you tune the car, gradually increase the weight of the oil until you stop seeing an improvement in lap times, or use the same oil and decrease the spring rate if the car doesn't have the grip you need. Once you've achieved a good baseline setup, you can start experimenting with pistons (# of holes and hole diameter).
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:38 AM   #17
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I'd experiment with changing the oil, spring rates, and bladders to adjust the dampening response before relocating the shock mounting points and changing the shock size, volume, and geometry. Dialing in dampening is one of the most difficult aspects of setting up an RC car, and learning how and when to make the changes takes a long time to learn.

If your running on a tight, bumpy surface, I'd try lighter oil and lighter springs to allow the tires to stay on the pavement. As you tune the car, gradually increase the weight of the oil until you stop seeing an improvement in lap times, or use the same oil and decrease the spring rate if the car doesn't have the grip you need. Once you've achieved a good baseline setup, you can start experimenting with pistons (# of holes and hole diameter).
Ok, i will try this later, thanks!
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To me this is just another gimmick used in the industry to get people to buy the latest and greatest product. People just need to take the time to learn how to set-up their carís properly.

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So I guess the conclusion here is that people are too lazy to figure anything out, old or new concepts. Also, give up on innovation
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The serpent 411 eryx shocks are shortrr than std, but with std bore and use std springs. This gives the benefit of lower cg. but with the same damping characteristics.

Seems a very good blend of advantages. I guess they'll fit most short shock setups.
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Find shorter springs drill some new holes in tower and run your old shocks. See if lowering them helps you.
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Find shorter springs drill some new holes in tower and run your old shocks. See if lowering them helps you.
On many cars this is impossible as the clearance between the shock cap and bottom of the shock tower is hardly anything. Moving the holes up on the shock tower would likely cause the shock caps to contact the bottom of the shock tower binding up movement of the shocks. Please look at your car before anyone tries this.
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On many cars this is impossible as the clearance between the shock cap and bottom of the shock tower is hardly anything. Moving the holes up on the shock tower would likely cause the shock caps to contact the bottom of the shock tower binding up movement of the shocks. Please look at your car before anyone tries this.
I wonder to buy those aftermarket long shock towers of Raceberry instead of drilling holes by myself!
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