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Old 07-11-2005, 04:59 PM   #1
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Talking Tamiya TRF415MS-X Conversion Kit

Was browsing thru the pages of Tamiya USA and ORION today and found out about they are releasing a conversion kit for the MS-X.

Any ideas for the price? release date?

It will certainly make maintenance work much much easier on the current 415MS. Can access the diff by removing only couple of screws which is the biggest advantage!

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The main thing i'm wondering about is if you can convert the "old" 415 to MSX and still run the old suspension?
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as far as i know, no you can't..you need the LWT setup
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as far as i know, no you can't..you need the LWT setup

i don't see why not ... cos the MS kit was released in limited numbers .. the original 415's suspension blocks are not any different compared to the MS. The LWT required the use of extra shims/washers on the same 415 suspension rod ...

It would be silly to have the MSX conversion limited to MS kit owners only
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the site states that the conversion kit will only work with 415MS or 415 equipped with LWT suspension.

So i guess it will be ok for it to be used on the older 415 with the LWT suspension setup. Since the conversion kit replaces a majority of parts such as front/rear bulkheads, front/rear damper towers, upper/lower decks.

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=49378
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There should be no reason why it wouldnt work, the old suspension would only limit the amount of wheelbase adjustment you have with the narrower location of the suspension blocks.

But the real question is why would you want to run what is most likely going to be a more flexible chassis with the old suspension? From what i understand its only the local rug runners, who are always after a stiffer chassis, and use the old suspension cause they continually smash their cars into the barriers.
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the site states that the conversion kit will only work with 415MS or 415 equipped with LWT suspension.

So i guess it will be ok for it to be used on the older 415 with the LWT suspension setup. Since the conversion kit replaces a majority of parts such as front/rear bulkheads, front/rear damper towers, upper/lower decks.

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=49378

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the conversion kit comes with the lower chasis, wich im assuming is the ms chasis, wich means you wont be able to use the old suspension with it cuz the ms chasis has the pivots mounted 2 mm closer.

what id like to know is if the ms owners can just buy the bulkheads, or is the actual chasis and uprights different as well, im hopping to just get bulkheads as i just purchased a spare ms chasis.
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Any informed word on price...darn Tamiya always making me want something new and expensive!
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But the real question is why would you want to run what is most likely going to be a more flexible chassis with the old suspension? From what i understand its only the local rug runners, who are always after a stiffer chassis, and use the old suspension cause they continually smash their cars into the barriers.
Some of us can't afford the cost of converting to the LWT suspension, especially since the old skool one is doing quite nicely.
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Was browsing thru the pages of Tamiya USA and ORION today and found out about they are releasing a conversion kit for the MS-X.

Any ideas for the price? release date?
I've heard from my local distributor it'll cost roughly US$200...

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Some of us can't afford the cost of converting to the LWT suspension, especially since the old skool one is doing quite nicely.

I apreciate that we cant always have the latest and greatest, but if you cant afford the $80 conversion would you then be looking at getting a $200+ Chassis conversion?

Also 2mm wont make a difference, you have more adjustment than this on the std car anyway, as i said earlier you should be able to fit the old skool suspension, but you just wont have the range of wheelbase adjustment as you would with the original chassis.
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$200 for the conversion kitt? OMG!!!
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$200 for the conversion kitt? OMG!!!
It is not unprecedented the Yokie LCG conversion is $240.
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I apreciate that we cant always have the latest and greatest, but if you cant afford the $80 conversion would you then be looking at getting a $200+ Chassis conversion?
I myself am not looking at the MSX upgrade, but will probably get the DJ rear end. Once my tax return is done.
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