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Old 07-10-2005, 04:41 PM   #1
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Each car has one thing or another that seperate them from the pack.

1. Drivetrain the winner is X-ray, why? silky smooth, sealed diffs and the mulit-diff put it over the top. Second goes to HPI Pro 4, third is the TRF415ms

2. Wrenching the winner is Yokomo's new belt car, why diff access. Second is a tie between the Pro4 and the TC4 because their set-up the sameway,third is the Losi.

3. Tuning the winner is the yet to be release TC4, why? You don't have to buy a thin or thick chassis to goes from carpet to pavement, that just by itself alone makes it the clear cut winner. Second goes to X-ray, third goes to the RDX.

4. Wear and tear the winner is the new Losi, why? Alinement pins keeps it from tweaking and those LCD joints would love a spool. Second is the RDX, third is the X-ray

5. Suspension the winner the TRF415ms, why? Very fine tuning a-arm and the worlds best shocks in the business. Second is the X-ray, third is the RDX.

6. Parts and fit the winner is the RDX, why? No slop at all, no grinding the battery slots. Second is the X-ray, third is the Losi.

7. Steering mechanism the winner is the X-ray, why? Least amount of moving parts=less slop. Second is the Losi, third is the TC4.
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Each car has one thing or another that seperate them from the pack.

1. Drivetrain the winner is X-ray, why? silky smooth, sealed diffs and the mulit-diff put it over the top. Second goes to HPI Pro 4, third is the TRF415ms
I would disagree only on the first one.
I have both the Pro4 and the X-ray. My Xray is nowhere near as free as my Pro4.
It doesnt matter how free and smooth I get my Xrays bearings and diffs to spin, the belt friction (as slight as it may be) gives way to my Pro4 drive train. Without pinion, the Pro 4 spins for days
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Old 07-10-2005, 05:21 PM   #3
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i agree about the pro4...it's I just don't realize HOW free the pro4 really is to other cars because i haven't held that many other tourers these days
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Free spinning drivetrain doesn't really mean it's better...What's important is what happens under load
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P-dub- you hit the nail on the head buddy
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Tc4 for wrenching? I could have my whole xray apart before you could get one diff our of a tc4.

And Losi for Wear and Tear? Losi parts wear out faster than anything I have owned.

And you give the tuning to a car thats not out yet and not tested by anyone that I know on Carpet with foams.

I thin you got it wrong.
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Old 07-10-2005, 07:53 PM   #7
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It's all an opinion. Here are mine from what I know and or have observed.

1. Drivetrain-Pro 4. Super free, and easy to make it that way.

2. Wrenching-winner is the Yokomo BD or the Yokomo LCG. Only a few screws gets the diffs out.

3. Tuning-winner is the RDX. Second is the Xray

4. Wear and tear-winner is the Xray. Still haven't seen a broken FK05. Second is the Pro4

5. Suspension-Tamiya of course.

6. Parts and fit the winner is the RDX, why? No slop at all, no grinding the battery slots. Second is the BD/LCG. Third is the Xray or Tamiya

7. Steering mechanism the winner is a tie betweent the LCG and the Pro4. Very simple and slop free.
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:06 PM   #8
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Tc4 for wrenching? I could have my whole xray apart before you could get one diff our of a tc4.

And Losi for Wear and Tear? Losi parts wear out faster than anything I have owned.

And you give the tuning to a car thats not out yet and not tested by anyone that I know on Carpet with foams.

I think you got it wrong.
The car around my seem to hold very well.
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I believe there's no such thing as a perfect touring car...As all cars has its own Pros and Cons.AS we can see from the above posts.
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:11 PM   #10
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[QUOTE=L.Fairtrace]

And Losi for Wear and Tear? Losi parts wear out faster than anything I have owned.

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And they TEAR more than any car I know of. The JRX-S makes the Yokomo look like a bullet proof tank.
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:44 PM   #11
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I believe there's no such thing as a perfect touring car...As all cars has its own Pros and Cons.AS we can see from the above posts.
Yes your right,I should have been a little more specific. If you could take the best parts from each car to make a whole.
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i think they have a lot of good car over there and you just need to find the one that you will be ok whit!! my fisrt car was a Xray T1R that i upgraded to a FK and its was a competive car and have succes whit but after a while i looked the car and didnt like it anymore hehe!! i wanted a car who is competive but have more bling bling!! and i found the RDX! What a beautiful car and competive car!! i am in love whit this car i can look the car for a hour hehe!! anyways they have a lot of nice car and its hard to tell which is the best!!!

TC3: you can find some on the web for 75$$ lol and it still a competive car for a old car!!!

Xray:TANK!! i think its the most durable car that i ever see !! i just break like 2 c-hub and 2 sterring block on that car whit a least 60 race hehe!!

RDX: Nice car lot of bling bling and great handling!! people who owned never see one who didnt like the car!!!

Tamiya 415: dont know much about this car but its look good and i think tamiya have succes whit those car!!!

they other are good also but dont know too much about those: Pro 4,Yokomo,Schumacher Mission 2,JRx-S!!

I love all the Touring Car hehe!! they look good!! but one that i dont like is the JRX-S i dont tell is not a great car but dont like the drivetrain !! its look bizzare to my eyes!!!

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I believe there's no such thing as a perfect touring car...As all cars has its own Pros and Cons.AS we can see from the above posts.
There could be if the companies would take there time, but in the end, it's all about costs and profit margins.

I'm impressed with my Pro 4 parts quality and the fact that HPI designed every part with TLC. It's close to perfect if you ask me.

My TC4's a good car. I like the drivetrain rip. It may be the gear diff material???

Whomever takes the best of each design aspect and throws it all into one chassis, will have the "Perfect car."
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P-dub- you hit the nail on the head buddy
Stephen, your a great stock racer with alot of experience. I have a quick question:

How free are your's and other a-main regulars trannys? I've seen pro4's with 30 seconds of freespin, and I only have like 5 seconds with my Yokomo. How important is having a super free drivetrain in big stock races? Will I lower my laptimes if I have a car with super smooth ceramics that can spin for ages over a normal, non-binding tranny that can spin for 3-10 seconds? I'm just wondering how much of a difference it makes since the cogging effect of the motors slows us down more than the friction in the tranny.

thanks for your help
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