Diff height, what does it do?
So, all other suspension settings being equal, what does altering diff hieght do?
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I would say, a change in CG.
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Lower diffs provide more traction, more body roll, and make car feel more "locked in" versus being free and "on top" off the track.
Higher diffs do the opposite. Less traction, less roll, and make car feel more responsive. Its going to be a "feel" adjustment so try it to see if u like it. Lap times will be the ultimate deciding factor...:eek: Hope that helps. :nod: |
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but look at the angle the drive shafts have with the outdrives, the more horizontal the more freely they move, especially on power, making it easier for the car to roll and having more grip.
So it's not about putting the diff higher or lower, but making the drive shafts more or less horizontal. |
Originally Posted by ReneT
(Post 12736685)
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but look at the angle the drive shafts have with the outdrives, the more horizontal the more freely they move, especially on power, making it easier for the car to roll and having more grip.
So it's not about putting the diff higher or lower, but making the drive shafts more or less horizontal. |
Higher COG (centre of gravity) will make the car roll more.
Lower COG wil make the car roll less. Raising the diff = raising COG = more roll Lowering diff = lowering COG = less roll Most of the time it's best running the diffs as low as possible. The angle of the driveshaft does have an impact but im not too sure about the specifics of it. |
Originally Posted by narcotiks
(Post 12737661)
Higher COG (centre of gravity) will make the car roll more.
Lower COG wil make the car roll less. Raising the diff = raising COG = more roll Lowering diff = lowering COG = less roll Most of the time it's best running the diffs as low as possible. The angle of the driveshaft does have an impact but im not too sure about the specifics of it. Correct....unless you're dealing with a gyro. :D |
You guys are all saying different things. Even one guy saying two different things. That's gonna confuse everyone.
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Originally Posted by Xpress
(Post 12737726)
Correct....unless you're dealing with a gyro. :D
Originally Posted by JimmyMac
(Post 12737887)
You guys are all saying different things. Even one guy saying two different things. That's gonna confuse everyone.
The diffs spinning act as gyros. The further the spinning diff is from the roll center the flatter the car will corner. |
Originally Posted by Xpress
(Post 12737914)
Sorry...there isn't a sarcasm emoticon. :D
The diffs spinning act as gyros. The further the spinning diff is from the roll center the flatter the car will corner. So why then, does raising the ride height of the car increase the amount of roll? Since the whole drivetrain (rotating) is raised higher off the ground? Not arguing, just intrigued :) |
The CoG change from altering the diff height is minimal, and not the factor that will determine the change in handling.
The change in driveshaft angle is usually the main thing considered. More angle will give more traction on the power, but probably less corner speed (you never get something for nothing!). So you'd probably go for low diffs in low traction, and high diffs in high traction. Overall changing the diff height doesn't have a huge effect on the handling. I've tried it a couple of times and you can feel a change, but it's pretty minor, and never seems to result in more than about 0.05s change in laptimes. |
Originally Posted by narcotiks
(Post 12737951)
Please explain...
So why then, does raising the ride height of the car increase the amount of roll? Since the whole drivetrain (rotating) is raised higher off the ground? Not arguing, just intrigued :) The biggest factor I've always heard mentioned is that when the driveshafts are spinning (or is it when torque is applied to them?) they apply a straightening force. With the diff low, this causes the driveshafts to push the tires down and the chassis up, hence the increased traction from a low diff. -Mike |
Originally Posted by grippgoat
(Post 12737994)
When you raise the whole car, the roll center is also raised. I've never heard the gryo theory before, though.
The biggest factor I've always heard mentioned is that when the driveshafts are spinning (or is it when torque is applied to them?) they apply a straightening force. With the diff low, this causes the driveshafts to push the tires down and the chassis up, hence the increased traction from a low diff. -Mike |
Originally Posted by RogerDaShrubber
(Post 12738057)
Diff gyro sounds a lot like RC voodoo to me.
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In the corners the "gyros" r minimal cause we r going slow . they might gave a slight effect on the sweeper or faster sections . the drive line bind makes more since
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