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Old 07-07-2005, 04:40 PM   #46
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Well if the attitude is "whats that going to achieve" - then i rest my case that you are more than prepared to moan on forums but to actually try to do something about it is another thing.

Our club is not changing its mind - people wanted it changed from here - so we voted for it. If it didnt change, it would be fine, we would live with it.

You are incorrect - the NZRCA expects heat after any AGM because its a simple matter of life that you can not please everyone and something is always going to upset people.

I myself was never for the rule change so i support all the moaners - though im trying to defend it at the same time cause its what our members wanted.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:44 PM   #47
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Well if the attitude is "whats that going to achieve" - then i rest my case that you are more than prepared to moan on forums but to actually try to do something about it is another thing.

Our club is not changing its mind - people wanted it changed from here - so we voted for it. If it didnt change, it would be fine, we would live with it.

You are incorrect - the NZRCA expects heat after any AGM because its a simple matter of life that you can not please everyone and something is always going to upset people.

I myself was never for the rule change so i support all the moaners - though im trying to defend it at the same time cause its what our members wanted.
can the pro-stock as it is now and make it more in the middle that you prefered wasn't it? 540 then 19 or 23 turn then mod or something like that if I was paying attention, my bad if I got it wrong.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:53 PM   #48
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pro-stock was not a middle step between stock and mod - and certainly isnt now. The biggest problem our club has, is guys thought it was a stepping class so they went to pro-stock to prepare for mod - then tried mod motors and found they were so much faster and went straight back to pro-stock instead of keeping at mod. Our clubs remit was to combine stock and pro-stock together and introduce a middle step being 19 turn spec motors - this was withdrawn through to lack of support.
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well if they replace it with a more intermediate grade such as 23t then i'm all for it, but as it stands it seems a backward step.
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So My4ari does that mean that only 1/2 the remit passed ,that being the battery rule, but not the intermediate grade 19t suggestion??

I'm not moaning just trying to understand why as I am isolated up here and dont get to attend club meetings as they are in akld and me in wei.

It just makes no sense as we have just widened the gulf between stock and mod making it even harder to transition
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So My4ari does that mean that only 1/2 the remit passed ,that being the battery rule, but not the intermediate grade 19t suggestion??

I'm not moaning just trying to understand why as I am isolated up here and dont get to attend club meetings as they are in akld and me in wei.

It just makes no sense as we have just widened the gulf between stock and mod making it even harder to transition
If that's the case those that didn't want the whole remit couldn't have thought it out much.

I "assume" that a 19T middle of the road class would only have required a different motor and that they could still make time with their existing 3300mah?
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our entire remit was removed - but there were others that had put in for 1500 mah batteries in pro-stock not just ours to combine to the 2 so thats how it still went ahead.

i agree that the gap is now even wider but lets be serious - the gap was already huge - who has honestly put a pro-stock in their car then gone back to mod and thought wow this is actually quite a huge difference??

19 turn spec class would be 8 turns less than stock and 7 turns higher than the 12 turn limit in modified - so it appears to be a middle step - unless my mathematics are no good :-)
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So does that mean a year before the next AGM and a possible new grade??
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:31 PM   #54
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I'm all for a transitional class.
We run 23t bushed motors here as prostock ( unaffiliated club ).
These motors are ballistic ,turning almost the same laps as 12t mod, and if the mods are a little off thay have actually done more laps on the ODD occaision.

I have put my sons 23t in mod occaisionally to fill out the grade.
He never comes last ! lol
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:32 PM   #55
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Pro-Stock was a good step at my home track between the classes.

Its a hard one to know what to do, I know talking like this won't change things and there are a group of people trying to do something about this and get the rule changed back to as it was, but which is worse for the sport? I think challenging the rule with NZRCA or having the rule in place are both just as bad for the sport, so feel I'm between a rock and a hard place. Time will tell if Pro-Stock numbers will drop and the class will die, so thats not good, challenging the vote, well I can see that blowing up into a big problem as well.
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:03 PM   #56
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Why don't you all stop the moaning and get on with it. I am honestly sick of people moaning about the rule changes. I thought we are better people than that, some of you boys just sound like that Lion's coach who can't fix the problem so he moan about it. Let put this straight, if 1500mah battery is the deal for next year, that it is the deal for next year. If you don't like it, then don't race it. Well for all you guys' effort I am honestly considering to prove all you guys wrong and start racing this class next year. It certainly sound like a great challenge, and I love the challenge.

For put that guy who haven't race for 12 years, get an update on the current equipment won't you. 27t Stock motor have evolve so much, the stronger magnet and the brushing and the fix 24 degree timing help draw the mah out of the batteries in no time. So for those willing to try, this is what we are up against, how to make the motor, which draw high amp to run as efficient as it can possible. Looking forward to testing it again at Albany in the upcoming weeks and I will keep you all posted either here or in the Hobby Direct forum.
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For put that guy who haven't race for 12 years, get an update on the current equipment won't you. 27t Stock motor have evolve so much, the stronger magnet and the brushing and the fix 24 degree timing help draw the mah out of the batteries in no time. So for those willing to try, this is what we are up against, how to make the motor, which draw high amp to run as efficient as it can possible. Looking forward to testing it again at Albany in the upcoming weeks and I will keep you all posted either here or in the Hobby Direct forum.
Sure, right after I've read the manuals on my Rayspeed CGM, Intellipeak charger, Keyence ESC and JRXS3 radio I'll be sure to get right on it. No wait a minute it'll have to wait until I've finsihed matching my 3700 nimhs.

If it's still an armature with 3 poles and wire wrapped around them and stronger magnets it hasn't evolved as much as you think!
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Okay letís get to the point of the thread, I didnít want a debate on the rules that we run, I started this thread to find out about 1500 amp batteries so I could get the best runtime I could within the new rules

I am not here to say wither the rule is a good one or a bad one, I donít really care I just want to race no mater what the rules are

So the point of this thread is to determine which the best 1500 batteries are around so that drivers that have to adjust to the new rule can do so by being informed about all the battery options

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okay now we have all the stuff off our chest lets get bace to the purpose of this thread does people have personal opinon on which is the best running 1500 battery, ie AMP Max 2, or tamiya 1400, or sanyo(what type is best), or any other brand your suggestions and your veiw is great and appreicated and yes i am against the rule as i have tried running with the stock guys on the weekend and found that maybe i will be a little faster, maybe not but who cares i still want to race,

i am in favour of combining the 2 clases to make one class (combining the 2 motor types should make the class even stronger) so that it reads max 1500 battery rubber tyres and any roar approved 27 turn motor open (monster) or closed endbell (silvercan)that would be the new stock rules

and for pro stock, keep 3300's and lower the motor turn to 19 turn, i mean if they want to run a 23 turn motor instead then let them but open it up from 27turn down to 19turn and yes of course people will buy the 19turn motor so they can win, i know that, but i gives the drivers the choice rather than having the choice forced apon them

that way people that were running pro-stock can still do so with there old batterys and motor(if they want to) or for a small cost outlay just get a new motor

or those people that dont want to race at that type of pace have the choice of just buying some new batterys and a few new pinons to get the right gearing

with these rules there still might be some tweaking needed but it gives it back to the driver as ther choice on which way they want to go
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:07 PM   #59
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its just what i think but at the end of the day i will race no mater what the rules are and i will adapt to these rules so i can win,(got to drive better first)

as i am a new driver, only a year now i have alot to learnand a lot to do to become better, but i am keen and love the sport

do you remeber why you started in the sport?

was it the rules, or was it for the racing

remeber why you are here and whats important

just my 2 cents
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in my post i put keep the 3300's i said this because there are alot of people out ther with them and keeping them would be good for the class

let the mod keep up with the battery changes

and the rest of us that has 3300's has a place to use them

keeping it real

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