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Old 12-27-2015, 06:54 PM   #1306
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Yes, but you'll want the Tamiya versions, they are of much higher quality.
So these will work?
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Yup, they're the ones, in gold even.

Should sand or Dremel the outside edges to help prevent cuttng thru the side walls.
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Yup, they're the ones, in gold even.

Should sand or Dremel the outside edges to help prevent cuttng thru the side walls.
Perfect, thank you both for the replies.
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Chris,
since you are in the US, most tracks here allow you to go as wide as 190mm. This would add the option of the Exotek +3mm wheels, which widen the car by 6mm.
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:40 PM   #1310
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I need to run CRC F1 tires here.. are these Wheels correct for the X1 2016? Concerned about offset.

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The Tuning Haus wheels are an excellent choice and you can't beat the price. I have been running them for a couple years now and have never had any issues.
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I'm stumped on this and hope you guys can point me in the right direction.

My X1 has a massive push entering corners. So bad that I'm 1 sec. a lap slower than a car on Pardus tires. Only observation is the inside tire lifts in the sweeper. The track size is a little larger than IIC.

Basically to get it to turn, you have to slam the brakes and skid it sideways. But that driving style won't work with our 30 minute mains.

Here are the details:
- First run on our new ETS carpet
- Xray metal chassis
- 2015 body
- Pit Shimizu tires 571/572
- Battery transverse
- Weight = 1050
- Serpent ETS front wing - full downforce
- Team Saxo rear wing - full downforce
- Ride height is: F=4mm, M=4mm, R=4.2mm
- Running Motiv 21.5, Blinky

Front
- 1.5* Camber
- 9* Caster
- Inside front half sauced
- 2mm under all suspension posts
- 1mm droop
- 1* toe out
- Ackerman: all outer holes on bell crank and knuckles (kit settings)
- Springs are Ride Big Bore Blue (kind of soft)

Rear
- Xray Gold side springs, just touching chassis
- Xray side shock with 350 oil
- Xray shock with 600 oil and Black 2.2 spring
- Tight diff with carbide balls

Thanks for the help.
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Old 12-28-2015, 03:40 AM   #1312
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I'm stumped on this and hope you guys can point me in the right direction.

My X1 has a massive push entering corners. So bad that I'm 1 sec. a lap slower than a car on Pardus tires. Only observation is the inside tire lifts in the sweeper. The track size is a little larger than IIC.

Basically to get it to turn, you have to slam the brakes and skid it sideways. But that driving style won't work with our 30 minute mains.

Here are the details:
- First run on our new ETS carpet
- Xray metal chassis
- 2015 body
- Pit Shimizu tires 571/572
- Battery transverse
- Weight = 1050
- Serpent ETS front wing - full downforce
- Team Saxo rear wing - full downforce
- Ride height is: F=4mm, M=4mm, R=4.2mm
- Running Motiv 21.5, Blinky

Front
- 1.5* Camber
- 9* Caster
- Inside front half sauced
- 2mm under all suspension posts
- 1mm droop
- 1* toe out
- Ackerman: all outer holes on bell crank and knuckles (kit settings)
- Springs are Ride Big Bore Blue (kind of soft)

Rear
- Xray Gold side springs, just touching chassis
- Xray side shock with 350 oil
- Xray shock with 600 oil and Black 2.2 spring
- Tight diff with carbide balls

Thanks for the help.
So is the track green? If so, the aluminum chassis might not be helping you. In fact, you might be pushing because of the lack of grip.

You can always make the shock longer to get more droop. More camber. More toe out....
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Old 12-28-2015, 07:21 AM   #1313
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The Tuning Haus wheels are an excellent choice and you can't beat the price. I have been running them for a couple years now and have never had any issues.
I second that. Never had any issues with them. We don't have anyone at our track using Tamiya wheels anymore.
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Old 12-28-2015, 07:27 AM   #1314
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I'm stumped on this and hope you guys can point me in the right direction.

My X1 has a massive push entering corners. So bad that I'm 1 sec. a lap slower than a car on Pardus tires. Only observation is the inside tire lifts in the sweeper. The track size is a little larger than IIC.

Basically to get it to turn, you have to slam the brakes and skid it sideways. But that driving style won't work with our 30 minute mains.

Here are the details:
- First run on our new ETS carpet
- Xray metal chassis
- 2015 body
- Pit Shimizu tires 571/572
- Battery transverse
- Weight = 1050
- Serpent ETS front wing - full downforce
- Team Saxo rear wing - full downforce
- Ride height is: F=4mm, M=4mm, R=4.2mm
- Running Motiv 21.5, Blinky

Front
- 1.5* Camber
- 9* Caster
- Inside front half sauced
- 2mm under all suspension posts
- 1mm droop
- 1* toe out
- Ackerman: all outer holes on bell crank and knuckles (kit settings)
- Springs are Ride Big Bore Blue (kind of soft)

Rear
- Xray Gold side springs, just touching chassis
- Xray side shock with 350 oil
- Xray shock with 600 oil and Black 2.2 spring
- Tight diff with carbide balls

Thanks for the help.

I sauce more on the front. Up to the full tire minus 10mm of the edge. Also I usually run either Tamiya super soft or Ride super soft springs in the front. The car is a little edgy, but steers and settles in as the tires start to warm up. I also run 2 degrees of camber. I ran this on the old CRC grey carpet and the new CRC black carpet. Don't know how this compares to the ETS stuff.
You could also try to remove the 3 shims in the middle posts under the graphite plate that adjusts caster. That will give you a little more reactive steering as well.
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Old 12-28-2015, 07:29 AM   #1315
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I'm stumped on this and hope you guys can point me in the right direction.

My X1 has a massive push entering corners. So bad that I'm 1 sec. a lap slower than a car on Pardus tires. Only observation is the inside tire lifts in the sweeper. The track size is a little larger than IIC.

Basically to get it to turn, you have to slam the brakes and skid it sideways. But that driving style won't work with our 30 minute mains.

Here are the details:
- First run on our new ETS carpet
- Xray metal chassis
- 2015 body
- Pit Shimizu tires 571/572
- Battery transverse
- Weight = 1050
- Serpent ETS front wing - full downforce
- Team Saxo rear wing - full downforce
- Ride height is: F=4mm, M=4mm, R=4.2mm
- Running Motiv 21.5, Blinky

Front
- 1.5* Camber
- 9* Caster
- Inside front half sauced
- 2mm under all suspension posts
- 1mm droop
- 1* toe out
- Ackerman: all outer holes on bell crank and knuckles (kit settings)
- Springs are Ride Big Bore Blue (kind of soft)

Rear
- Xray Gold side springs, just touching chassis
- Xray side shock with 350 oil
- Xray shock with 600 oil and Black 2.2 spring
- Tight diff with carbide balls

Thanks for the help.
I would put black rear side springs and heavier oil (500) in the side shock. If you dont have the harder rear side springs just tighten the gold once a little bit (say 0,5-1 mm).
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So is the track green? If so, the aluminum chassis might not be helping you. In fact, you might be pushing because of the lack of grip.

You can always make the shock longer to get more droop. More camber. More toe out....
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I sauce more on the front. Up to the full tire minus 10mm of the edge. Also I usually run either Tamiya super soft or Ride super soft springs in the front. The car is a little edgy, but steers and settles in as the tires start to warm up. I also run 2 degrees of camber. I ran this on the old CRC grey carpet and the new CRC black carpet. Don't know how this compares to the ETS stuff.
You could also try to remove the 3 shims in the middle posts under the graphite plate that adjusts caster. That will give you a little more reactive steering as well.
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I would put black rear side springs and heavier oil (500) in the side shock. If you dont have the harder rear side springs just tighten the gold once a little bit (say 0,5-1 mm).
I like all these ideas too.

Wondering why you only sauce 1/2 fronts if no steering?

Also, for me, stiffer side springs or more preload as mentioned above will get that front wheel down and should get you to the point where the rear wheel will lift, then go between so both wheels stay down. Or the car flips
Then sauce less of the front tires again.
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Surprised no one has suggested 574 front Pit tires (unless there is a spec tire everyone must run.)

We run 574 on high grip carpet and it gives plenty of steering. Might be more likely to traction roll but you can always adjust suspension settings. I run this front tire with my aluminum chassis X1. Even then I still had to go softer front springs since the aluminum chassis took away steering.
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Surprised no one has suggested 574 front Pit tires (unless there is a spec tire everyone must run.)

We run 574 on high grip carpet and it gives plenty of steering. Might be more likely to traction roll but you can always adjust suspension settings. I run this front tire with my aluminum chassis X1. Even then I still had to go softer front springs since the aluminum chassis took away steering.
Was mainly curious why not saucing more than 1/2 of front tires, more sauce, more steering.

574 is definitely a steering tire if you got the guts. Can be tricky to deal with, but also my tire of choice for fronts.
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Surprised no one has suggested 574 front Pit tires (unless there is a spec tire everyone must run.)

We run 574 on high grip carpet and it gives plenty of steering. Might be more likely to traction roll but you can always adjust suspension settings. I run this front tire with my aluminum chassis X1. Even then I still had to go softer front springs since the aluminum chassis took away steering.
We run the TCS or CRC spec tires at our track.
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The Tuning Haus wheels are an excellent choice and you can't beat the price. I have been running them for a couple years now and have never had any issues.
+1. The Tuning Haus rims are great.
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